PODCAST TRANSCRIPT | Episode 6 – PROCLAIMING MOTHERS
Episode 6 – PROCLAIMING MOTHERS
FROM OUR HOME TO YOURS w/ Nancy Campbell
You will be excited and inspired as Evangeline, Nancy Campbell’s evangelistic and extroverted daughter, joins her for this session.
As we read the Scriptures, we constantly face “the tension of truth.” We often notice two apparently contradictory things, and yet because the Word of God is divinely inspired, both are true! We cannot hold one over the other. We face this as we read Psalm 68:11 where it talks about the “female proclaimers.” Does this mean women are to leave their homes to become preachers and pastors? What about the other Scriptures that reveal God’s plan for women to embrace home and mothering? How does it fit together? Listen to this podcast to find the answer.
Two quotes for you:
“Truths that are compelled to stand alone never stand straight and are not likely to stand long. Truth is one, but truths are many. Scriptural truths are interlocking and interdependent. A truth is rarely valid in isolation.” ~ A. W, Tozer
“No matter how much two teachings of Scripture may appear to be contradictory, they are not. They may be paradoxical, but they can never be contradictory . . . Denial of one set of biblical truth in order to affirm another is never an option for the faithful student of Scriptures.”
Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, From Our Home to Yours, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.
Nancy Campbell: So great to be back with you. Today we're carrying on from our message last week. I was speaking to you again about this great, mighty army that belongs to the home. And I talked about PURPOSEFUL mothering, and then I talked about PROTECTING mothering, and then PRAYING mothering.
Today I said I would talk about one more P, but today I'm also bringing on my daughter Evangeline. Evangeline is married to Howard, and she has 10 children, 25 years old down to Saber, their eight-year old. Anyway, say hi them!
Evangeline: Hello, you beautiful mummies, young ones and old ones. I love you.
Nancy: What is this fourth P? It is PROCLAIMING mothers. This comes right from this Scripture we're talking about in Psalm 68:11, where it says, “The Lord gave the word: great was the company . . .” It really means “Great was the ARMY of women who published it.”
I like the Young's translation. The Young's translation of the Word of God is the same guy who did the Young's Concordance. Taking it straight from the Hebrew, he says “the female proclaimers.” Now we've got to talk about this for a little bit, ladies, because in this Scripture we come across something which we call the tension of truth.
Now, right throughout the word of God, we come up against subjects and doctrines in the Word of God that look opposite. There is the tension of truth on one side, and something on the other side.
What is the truth? Sometimes they look totally contradictory. For example, we look at the absolute deity of Christ, and at the same time, the absolute humanity of Christ. Now some people can often take one and put it above the other, or less than the other, but no, both are eternal divine truths.
What about the fact that God is One, and yet He is three distinct divine Persons? Both are true. What about the fact of God's ultimate sovereignty, and yet our human responsibility? Some take one area, some take the other, but no, they are both absolute divine truths. In this tension of truth, we have to find what God is saying.
I love the words of one writer and he says: “No matter how much two teachings of Scripture may appear to be contradictory, they are not. They may be paradoxical, but they can never be contradictory. Denial of one set of Biblical truth in order to affirm another is never an option for the faithful student of Scriptures.”
Now, why am I saying this? Because when some women read this, “Oh, the female proclaimers, woo hoo! Now I can get out and I can be an evangelist!” Today's women I find are encouraged and exhorted to get out and to be speakers, and even to speak to men, and became great speakers of congregations, and even pastors.
Okay, we've got that truth on one side. Then on the other side, we've got that God created the home for the mother. He created His women to be mothers and to raise the children. It is impossible to be in the home and raise children, and at the same time be out as a great evangelist.
Now, I faced this many, many years ago when I was speaking at a women's conference in Malaysia. I was invited to speak along with a very, very well-known speaker, Daisy Osborn. I don't know, some of you may not have heard of her, but back in the days when Tommy Osborn and his wife Daisy were alive, they were just about a household word in the Christian scene. Tommy and Daisy Osborn were great evangelists. They traveled the world. They preached the Gospel to just about every country in the world, and they brought thousands, maybe millions, into the Kingdom of God.
I had great respect and honor for their ministry, but it was not an easy thing when I spoke at that conference, because although I honor this woman who has now gone to be with the Lord, and so has her husband, Tommy, I had to preach the other tension of truth, which was also the truth. Now Daisy was saying to the women, “You've got to get out. You've got to become an evangelist. Yes, you can become the pastor of your church.”
She had a little bit of the truth there, but you see ,when you speak to women in their childbearing years, and you're telling them to get out and to be evangelists and yes, they can be speakers, and they can be positive, and they can do this, well, what do they do with their children?
They'll have to stop having children, and they won't even be able to care for the ones they've got. So, you see, there's something wrong. So, let's get it right. Let's find out what it really means.
It is true this Word does say “female proclaimers.” But that's because we proclaim, and we are meant to be proclaimers, first to our children, and then wherever we go. We speak about Jesus, we speak the truth, we drop seeds of truth. We are proclaimers wherever we go, and God has given this to women because we know how to speak.
Women talk more than men, and so we just talk. Wherever we go, we talk. We're female proclaimers. It doesn't mean to say that we became pastors and evangelists. Yes, we'll be that individually, we'll be that. To stand up before congregations does not put proclaiming in that little wee segment. No, proclaiming is a lifestyle and its part of our lifestyle of mothering.
In fact, dear ladies, you do not give up your home and your mothering to become a proclaimer. It is part of your mothering anointing. Did you get that? Can I just say that again? You don't give up your home and mothering to be a proclaimer. It's part of your mothering.
Now let's find out what this word proclaim means. We've always got to go back to the original and find out what it means. Okay. Oh, it's an amazing meaning. It means “to be fresh.” How do you like that, Vange?
Evangeline: It's so good, Mom! It's so good!
Nancy: The only way you can speak about Jesus is if He is real to you. If He's not real, if you're not walking with Him, if you're not hearing His voice, what can you say to anybody? But when you have been reading the Word and, oh, you've just got something God is saying to you, you can share it with someone else. You could call up another mother and encourage her.
Evangeline (we call her Vange): It's so good, because you know it's fresh. You know when it's regurgitated, old dead style. You just want to say to that person, shut up. That's not fresh.
Nancy: I know, we're not talking about giving a sermon. We're talking about speaking something fresh that's going on in your life.
Evangeline: And that's life. And that's what changes.
Nancy: Oh, absolutely! And get this. I could not believe it when I read this. It also means “rosy.” Oh, can you believe that.
Evangeline: Forget that rouge, woman, it's a rosy world!
Nancy: Yes, isn't it beautiful! I just couldn't believe it. Full of cheer. Oh, it's so good. Yes. See, this is our testimony, ladies. We go out with our children, with our little ones around us, who we've been training. We go into the supermarket, and oh, you know, we're a testimony.
Somebody says to you, “Oh goodness me, are all these children yours?” You answer, “Yes, we love children, don't you?” What a testimony.
Evangeline: And we usually just say, “It's just our first set!”
Nancy: That's a great idea. Yeah. Some say, “Oh, you've got your hands full!” You could answer, “Well, actually I'm only up to number six. I've got four to go!” And you've become a testimony, and you've got a smile on your face. It's fresh testimony.
It also means “to announce, to bring good news, to tell glad tidings, to be a messenger.” Now, this is your day-to-day walk. In fact, Psalm 96:2 says, “Sing unto the Lord, bless His Name, show forth His salvation from day to day.”
Day-to-day in your home. If you have to pop down to the grocery store, if you have to go somewhere, wherever you go, you're showing forth His salvation.
What about this one? Isaiah 52:7: “How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of hi that bringeth good tidings, that PUBLISHETH peace; that bringeth good tidings of good that PUBLISHETH salvation, that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!” Also, Nahum 1:15. Both talk about the feet, the feet of him that brings good tidings. It's the same word for female proclaimers. So where do your feet go? If your feet are just going into your kitchen in the morning, what are you going to do, darlings?
You're going to be a proclaimer of good tidings to your children. You're not coming out of the bedroom with your dressing gown on. Is that what you call it here? I don't know. Something you put around you. That's what we call it down under.
And you're all morbid, and you're hardly awake. No, you come out. “Good morning children. Isn't God so good? We're going to have a great day together. Oh, I love you. And I love being your mother!”
You're proclaiming the best news you ever could to your children! You'll be proclaiming all day to your children. If you go out somewhere, you'll just keep on proclaiming. What do you reckon, Vange?
Evangeline: It's so true, and I just so love it, because we are made to hear proclaiming news. We love a heraldress. I mean, people love to hear news. Your children are loved.
It's what's in our DNA to want to hear something fresh and that's why we have Facebook, and we have these memories. I was just talking on Pearl and Serene’s Poddy (Trim Healthy Mama) all about this. We get all these new things and it's just a lot of real nonsense. Rather than, you can be the mother, giving them the fresh word that you've got from Jesus, and then getting them to get it.
Otherwise you'll be running off to this conference, running off to this retreat, trying to get something to fulfill your life, where you yourself are the one to bring refreshment. You are the one to bring the rosy cheeks to your children, and the life, and to the world, and to your neighbor, and to all those people in the grocery line.
I mean, that's it. You know, a lot of people say to me, you should be a preacher, and I say to them, “Well, I am! Every day to whoever I meet! I mean, yeah.”
Nancy: Got any stories?
Evangeline: I've got so many stories, Mom, but to the point where, you know what? Really, the world should be trying to shush us up, but we cannot be shushed up. Our homes are not to be a retreat center. They are to be an advancement center. They are to be advanced headquarters, and that's it. They can be a haven, but not a retreat. And that's a big one. Mom, do you want to go on? Because I've got lots to say. I know you've got lots to say too.
Nancy: Going to one little thought there. I think that is so true. We have again, the changing of truth. Like some people think, “Oh, yes, I can send my children out into the public school. They will survive there, and they will be a great testimony!”
Oh, I beg your pardon. Your precious little children are so vulnerable. So, we protect them in those early years. We're protecting them in the home. We're protecting them. We are filling them richly with God's truth, and we are getting them ready. But no, not forever, because one day we're going to send them out into the world. We're getting them ready to do that.
Evangeline: It is an advancement. You know, I want to bring on the Scripture right before we keep on going. It was either Isaiah or Jeremiah, he said, “Here I am for You, Lord, with the children You have given me.” Do note, one of the greatest prophets wrote a book of the Bible. He didn't just say, “Here I am.” He said, “AND THE CHILDREN YOU HAVE GIVEN ME.” (Isaiah 8:18).
So, he was a man. How much more we as mothers should wake up and say that daily to the Lord! “Lord,” not just “Here I am,” but “Lord, here I am, and the children You have given me.” That's been my thing since I was first married. Soon as they were in my womb, not when they were born, even while they were in my womb. I'm like, “Here I am, Lord, and the children You have given me, for what?”
“For SIGNS AND FOR WONDERS in Israel.” We are not just having children. We're not just being any old family. We're being signs and wonders in this country. Wherever we are, whatever country you are, for signs and wonders for the glory of God, for the Kingdom He wants displayed on this earth. That's why.
People do have a point when they say, “You know, you Christian families are just hiding out.” Stop it. We are to be a haven where, when they're little, we're training them. It's an advancement center for the God squad that they are going to be, and that we are as a family. It's where literally Christianity starts, where social justice starts, where missions start.
It is not a place to hide from the world, or hide our light, but the complete opposite. When the family unit, and you as a mother, as a part of this army, as a leading SEAL team person, leads your children, you become a God squad. It's powerful, adventurous, and exciting. Your children get to experience the power of God themselves, rather than doing just this little writing of ticking the boxes, versus they actually get to experience it.
It's not an endorsement to leave your family for some church ministry so others can raise your children for you. No, no. It's a call to take your family out when the time is right, and also to take yourself out of hiding. When you go to the grocery store, you are not in hiding. You have a voice, as Mom said, women and children, stop shutting your voice up, proclaim it. Don't hide! Be the adventurer and give yourself to God and His Kingdom for purposes together.
Nancy: Yes. Well, I find if I ever happen to be out shopping the same time as Evangeline, and that doesn't always happen, but on the occasions when it has happened, and with being in Whole Foods, or maybe Aldi's, or somewhere like that, and I don't know if she's there. Well, if she is there, I will soon hear her, and goodness, she's here! I hear her voice and what is she doing?
She's got some ladies round her, and she is sharing with them one of her God stories. She just tells them, doesn't matter who it is, Christian or non-Christian. She just tells them what God is doing in her life, and what God is like. That's how it happens. That's how it's meant to be. You see, lovely ladies, this is the understanding of this tension of truth.
Yes, we are free as women to proclaim. We have been given this anointing to be the proclaimers of the Gospel, the proclaimers of the truth, but at the same time, we have this powerful mandated career from God, to take up this career in our homes and raise godly families for the nation to be a godly nation.
Now we don't have to do one or the other. You see, they fit together. Do you understand it now? They fit together. We do both. As we mother, we are proclaiming. As we go out and about with our children, we are proclaiming His Word. There's nothing to stop us. We are free to proclaim!
Evangeline: It's true, Mom, because even yesterday, and it is true about my life, because yesterday (Vickie is here watching us, a friend of mine), and she couldn't believe it. Yesterday I was just at Aldi's, and somebody could hear me three aisles over. A lady shouted out, “I can hear you, Vange!”
You know what? People sing out when they're happy, and they're excited at something, and they think nothing of it. But people think something of it when you sing out and are happy about Jesus, and I just don't care. I'm happy and excited, so I sing in the shops, I sing at home. I'm just like . . . This is my life, and I get to live it, and so should you.
If you're happy, stop letting the dictating negative thoughts of your brain say, “Oh, somebody might be watching you all. They might think you're just a little bit over the top. Ooh, why are they singing?”
Well, let them think it. Maybe they'll come up, and say, “Hey, you're happy!” Or, “Hey, I know that song!” Or, “Hey, I heard the words of that song!” They might hear your latest truth that you got this morning, or the story that happened to you last week.
I mean, they don't have to be . . . Just look at everybody before you as a human being before the Lord, whether they know Him or they don't. Just give them Jesus, and you don't need to go and find some ministry. You have it all at your feet.
Nancy: You have it right before you, and the world is waiting for you. Mother, you don't have to vacate your great calling of mothering.
Evangeline: They're actually really waiting for you. They’re desperate, that desperate.
Nancy: Another thought to release you. In my early days, I didn't understand fully. You know, you don't understand all God's truth all at once. It takes years and years of searching His Word and seeking after Him.
I can remember when I was a young pastor’s wife. We were, my husband and I, we'd been pastoring for all our lives. In fact, we went out full time for God when we were engaged.
So, I've always had that opportunity, and that pull, as a pastor's wife, to get involved in ministry. There was that pull there. In the early days, I thought, “Oh, I am meant to be doing this and that,” but then the children were coming along. I had to realize I had to seek God to know what was my calling. And yes, I began to see, yes, it is in the home.
This is where I was to be. And just because my husband was a pastor does not make me a pastor. Now this is one of the strangest things in the whole of the world that I still can't get over. I have been a pastor's wife now for, goodness me, 55 years!
Yet I find that when a wife is married to an engineer, she doesn't feel that she has to be an engineer. When a wife is married to a doctor, she doesn't feel that, “Well, I have to be a doctor too.” When she is married to an accountant, does she have to be an accountant too? No, she is who she is!
Why is it that pastors' wives think they must be pastors too? That's a strange phenomenon, isn't it? But I got freed from that. My grandest role as a pastor's wife was to be the greatest mother and to show to all my congregation what it means to be a mother.
That's why it says in Titus Chapter Two, verses three to five, that the older women teach the younger women to love their children, and love their husbands, and be keepers at home. And then, if they don't do it, what does it say, what is the word? It's pretty strong! “BLASPHEMED.” Yes, the Word of God will be blasphemed.
Oh goodness me. I wrote about that once. I got all these women writing back to me and saying these most terrible things. In fact, I think if they were looking at me, they would have had rocks to throw them at me! The funny thing was, I was only quoting the Word of God! Isn't that funny? I often find when I say things and I'll quote the Word of God, then I get all this feedback. It's as though people never ever heard the Word of God. They just thought it was me.
Evangeline: They haven't. They haven't because they just go, and they hear other people, but they don't pick it up for themselves. I'm genuinely speaking. I urge you to just go and pick it up, and start reading it. Start reading one that you can understand . . . the Bible. Start with the gospels. John, it's amazing. I can't get out of John right now. It's freaking me out. Changing my life daily.
Nancy: Yes, we must be careful. When we don't show the right lifestyle, we do blaspheme the Word of God. Why do we blaspheme the Word of God? Because it's showing the opposite picture to what God originally ordained.
Now, I haven't gotten on to my little point. When I was going through this dilemma myself, and I hadn't really got through to victory way back in those days, God came to me one night. He said these words:
“The perfect will of God for your life will never contradict My existing commandments.”
Therefore, if I felt called to this great ministry. I have always had such a love to teach; I was a teacher before I was married. Because I have a passion for the Word, I love to teach the Word. I could have been tempted to go out and be a teacher of the Word.
Oh, I remember when I first had an opportunity to go and minister the word. My husband said to me, “Nancy, what are you going to speak about?” I told him some great revelation I got out of the Word. He said to me, “No, you're not. No, you're not.” He said, “God is showing you in the Word what you should speak about. You're to speak about loving your husband, loving your children, building your home.”
I am so grateful for a husband who was my protector, and in him protecting me, and him guiding me in the right direction. I'm doing what I am doing today. Maybe I wouldn't be doing Above Rubies if he hadn't protected me from keeping to where God wanted me.
The wonderful thing is understanding God's truth. If we have to go out and do something, and because we're doing all that for God, but goodness, we don’t have time to maybe have another baby, or have another two babies, or three babies, or however many God wants to give us. If we haven't even got time to be at home with these children God has given us . . . that is not the perfect will of God. So, forget it. It's your will, not God's will, because God's will doesn't contradict His original commandments. His tension of truth doesn't contradict another truth. Are you getting it, ladies?
Evangeline: That's so good, Mom. That's so true. You often find women who are gifted, but they don't understand this. I also want to say here to all of you, when you are living an absolutely wild-mothering laid-down life, and many people say, “It is like I'm giving up.”
It's not really, because you've already given your life over to the Gospel. When you get the Gospel, and Jesus comes and pervades your whole being, you have died to your own life and you're living for the Lord. That's the same with mothering.
You've already given over to Jesus because He lays his life down for his children. In doing so, we're the female version of the Gospel. It is our time to shine. Literally, we get to do the same thing for our children, and raise, just as he was the high priest, we're raising priests and such before the Lord. We are.
We're doing the same thing, and it is an army, and it's soldiering. Mothers, your most amazing value on earth is when you were soldiering for the future. This is what you're doing, Mothers. You're soldiering for the future.
You cannot sit down on the job and wish you that you were somewhere else, or wish you were doing some other ministry. Because it's pretending that you're soldiering in the future, but you're not really doing it. It's not going to look right. It's like a SEAL team member, or a guy who's trained or waited his whole life to be a soldier. Go out and take that nation, or into that war!
It's like he's sitting down at a desk, and he's unsatisfied. He's irritated, but he's pretending to do a good job. The same with you, you will be frustrated in your motherhood, you will be trying to find another job because you aren't giving your all over. You have to give your all over.
You can't go to all these little formulas and stuff where you're trying to get the meal over faster. You're trying to get the children out of the door faster. Your highest form in your life of doing the Gospel is when you're mothering.
We can sing, we can pray like all these Christians do,” Lord, let your glory come,” but we neglect, Mom, how that can be done. How is it done? Children are created. We are His glory, and we're like, “Nah, I'm good. I'll pass. I just want to go down to the woman's ministry center.” We're forgetting how His glory is revealed on Earth by US raising kings and priests to God! They are His Glory!
Nancy: I think that's the most wonderful thing, Mothers. It's a double portion we have, because we are the feminine proclaimers. We are also raising proclaimers for God's Kingdom. They're going to become proclaimers as they see us proclaiming. Are your children going to grow up being proclaimers of God's Kingdom if you're not doing it? No! It's what they see us doing, a lifestyle that they emulate and follow.
Now Evangeline's children, they are just following her lifestyle. I look at her oldest son, Zadok. He is. well, it's rather hard to describe him, isn't it? Zadok has such a passion for Jesus and for winning souls to Jesus. He can't go anywhere; he can't even go to the gas station to get some gas without winning someone to Jesus, without praying for someone to be healed. And he sees them healed.
He can hardly go into Walmart without preaching the Gospel, without waiting in line for whatever he's paying for. There's someone in the line that can hardly walk. So, he stops, and, “Can I pray for you?” He prays for them right there and sees them healed.
Evangeline: But I want to interrupt, sorry Mom, because there's lots of good stories there. But you know what, when they were little, you mothers have to rock the boat a little bit. I've read this story today. It says do something uncomfortable. I love that saying. We had to sort of, we don't keep them in the boat. We are to rock the boat. They might feel a little bit inhibited.
When they are out with you, children are drawn to the drunks and the old people. When they're like, “Mom, look at that old person,” and you go with them because you've got to be their protector. It's like, “Would you mind if my child prays for you?”
Who's going to refuse a little girl, six-year-old girl, wanting to pray for an old woman who's drunk, or you know, with a wine bottle. Or an old person. Let your children be with them. But let them be the Gospel. Let them be the Gospel.
If they see you do it, they will be so excited, because then you allow them to pray. It is not your story anymore. It's their story. It's their story! My children have grown up with it being their story. It's so fun. It's so exciting. Yeah. It's not about us. It's not.
Nancy: And even if they do what you did . . . Remember when you were about six years old? Yes, I went to this store and Evangeline's just a little girl. She looks up at this guy at the counter, and she says to him, “Are you a Christian?” And the guy says Yes, and she looks up at him. She says, “No, you're not! you smoke!”
Evangeline: That's so funny. But you know what? Our children, we don't do it perfectly. No one does it perfectly, and our children aren't. But you know what, Jesus said, “Let the little children come to Me.” He hears the prayers of the children. So why don't you get the children to pray instead of you? Because he hears the prayers. I mean, we are a family squad for his Kingdom. If you're just doing it by yourself, you're all about yourself. Can you just get off your high horse?
Nancy: So anyway, lovely ladies, I'm sure you got the message. Alright, okay, tell a story.
Evangeline: Well, you most probably said it, Mom, but I want you to tell me stories. You know that it might be a little bit hard for you because you've kept your mouth quiet for a long time. But you know mothers, you're talkers, so start opening your mouths!
In the meantime, I want you to proclaim also in prayer. We live out in the woods, and I would often go on these lovely walks. I have a baby on my back or pushing a stroller. That's when they were little, and you might have little ones. Now, take your children for walks, and proclaim out loud. You think that you might not be affecting the world. I have acted like the President, not just of the United States, but of the world.
I tell you what, the spiritual dimension is so much bigger than the natural dimension. God has shown me pictures through the night. One day, I saw this picture of this huge statue falling down. Well, I didn't understand what it meant. The next day, I was out in the woods, and I think I had a baby on my back, and I was with a friend.
I said, “Look, this is weird, but I just feel like yelling out from what this picture God's shown me, “Pull it down! Lord, pull the statue down!” I felt like it was a statue representing evil. Do you know, two days later, on the news, they had that huge statue of, who was it? Saddam Hussein? It was something like that. It was a massive statue that was on the news. They had this huge statue, and they were pulling it down.
Another time, you know, just me, I'm a little mother, not knowing many people out in the woods.
Nancy: She's a six-foot mother.
Evangeline: Yes, yes, that is true. But, I just felt led to pray for all the soldiers of our country, that as they were going over to, I think it was they were going to Iraq the first time, that they would, as they were on their way, they would receive revelation for who Jesus is. They would be able to receive Him, maybe even get baptized. I had this whole imagination.
God uses your imagination, mothers. Two days later, in the paper, everything that I'd imagined happened. Because I was imagining all these soldiers getting baptized in rivers, and I started to pray it out loud on my walks. Well, guess what? Two days later, in the main page of that paper, and on the cover of one of those big magazines were all these soldiers getting baptized in a river on their way.
You know what? Do not, do not, regard your prayers as insignificant because God hears the prayers of praying mothers who cry out. You can change the very foundation of the world. You live in, not just your country of the world, you are a sniper, a SEAL force sniper, in prayer.
Wipe out evil countries! Wipe out evil in the world, to change the foundation for what your children will grow up in. You could be the President in the spiritual realm. “God, what nation do you have me pray for today? What is it? What presidents do we need to be praying for? What's on your agenda, God, for this world?” I'll tell you what, you can either let your brain go to the brink as a mother, or become the most brilliant woman on earth. You have this time to raise this incredible future and change the world.
Can I just say one more thing? You know, I've got this great friend of mine, and she's of opposite faith. She says she's not even of faith. She is a, she won't say the word “God” even. Anyway, I met her, and she said, “Well, I'll eventually speak to you.” She never wanted to talk to me.
She said, “I've been married three times.” She refused to ever, ever have a child, because she wants to save the world. I said, “Ooooh, you are my kindred friend. I've had 10 children for the same vision, to save the world too!” So, she laughed. She couldn't believe it. I said, “No, we both want to save the world. We're just coming up from different angles. Let's talk!”
You see, this is the deal. Hey, you are changing the world! Get out there and do it. Don't hide.
Nancy: That's the thing, dear ladies, and remember, this is our word to you today. You are in the home embracing your mothering and raising Godly children. You are a proclaimer and you're raising your children to be proclaimers.
Let me just read the Scripture to you once again, so you get it. This beautiful story, Psalm 68:11, 12: “The Lord gave the word. Great (GREAT) was the army of women who proclaimed it.” Great was the army of feminine proclaimers. It goes on to say: “Kings of armies did flee apace.” All the armies fled because the men went out, they won the battle. But she (SHE) once again. Get it, precious ladies. It doesn't say “he who dwells in the home.” “She who stayed in the home divided the spoil.” The two armies, and you are part of this great army in the home.
Let's pray as we close that God will bring back the women to this army, this army that's deserted. We can't win a war with a deserted army. God wants his army back in the home. Because it's as this army of women, these mighty women, these powerful, praying, protecting, proclaiming mothers come back to the home, wow, we will, we will begin to raise a godly nation.
Now we have a president who wants to make America great again, but it's no man that can make America great again. It's only God, and doing it His way, and His way is the home. Because a nation is only what the homes and families of the nation are. We cannot build a strong nation when the mothers are not in the home. It does not work. This army has got to come back.
“Oh God, we pray now. We ask, Lord God, in the name of Jesus, that You will move by Your Spirit, and You will draw Your army back into the home, oh God. Back to this glorious realm, because this is where the glory is. The enemy has totally deceived women, taking them out of this sphere of glory.
This is where You have placed them, in their glory, Lord, and to raise godly children who will become the glory in the nation. We can only bring Your glory into this nation as we come back to the home, and there to raise godly children.
So, we ask, Lord God, that You will bring a great revival of women coming back to their home, and embracing the children You want them to have, and bringing forth the godly seed and more godly proclaimers to fill the world with Your glory. We ask this in the precious Name of Jesus. Amen.”
Evangeline: Guess what? I agree.