LIFE TO THE FULL w/ Nancy Campbell

EPISODE 304: Is There A Better Word Than "Kids", Part 6

In this session we talk about raising daughters—daughters who are trained and fit for a palace! 

Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, Life to The Full, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Hello, ladies! We are back to our series, “Is There a Better Word Than “Kids”?” And we’re up to Part 6. When I start a series, it seems to linger on, doesn’t it? We actually interposed this with a couple of sessions when I interviewed Rebecca Lavrenz.

I would like to update you today about what happened with Rebecca. She has been up in Washington DC with her trial. Today was the ninth day of her trial. Imagine, nine whole days, for just a little great-grandmother. All she did was walk into the Capitol on January 6, 2021, following others, because the doors were open. She walked around. She prayed, and then felt she had accomplished her purpose after praying and walked out. She was there about ten minutes.

Now she has been accused of quite a number of charges, which are quite erroneous. They have deliberated for all these days. Now, on the ninth day, she says here, just got her email now.

“I am in utter disbelief by today’s verdict. Never in my life did I imagine that my own government would charge me as a criminal for exercising my religious liberties and rights to free speech, which are guaranteed by the First Amendment of the US Constitution.

“They are trying to stop our voices, put fear in our hearts, and take away the inalienable rights given to us by God. But I will not let this happen to this praying great-grandmother as long as I have breath. I have never considered myself a victim, and I’m not about to start now. I’m taking a deep breath, finding a place to rest for the night as we head back to Colorado. Then we will spend extra time with God to find out His plan for what’s next. They will be having the sentencing on August 12.”

We must still keep praying for Rebecca. This is just so amazing what is happening in our country. Dear ladies, those of you who are here in America (many of you are listening from around the world of course). But please pray. I don’t think many people realize just where we are at in this country and how it is going down this communistic tube of destruction.

We have a dear friend who is part of our fellowship here, who is from Venezuela. He fled Venezuela before it became communist. He was seeing then in Venezuela the things that we are seeing happening here now. Even fleeing Venezuela was not enough. He has still been harassed by them, even here in the States.

Keep praying. I trust that you are praying daily, morning and evening, with your families, crying out to God for this nation. Oh, that God will turn us back to our country’s origin, its foundation, and how our forefathers established this nation.

At the moment, I’m reading the book “THE AMERICAN COVENANT” (The Untold Story) by Marshall Foster. by Oh, to read about our Founding Fathers and how godly they were and how they established this nation. We have come so far away. But we can always return. It happens by prayer, and seeking God, and turning from our wicked ways. Amen?

Well, ladies, I’ve got 20 words that God uses in His Word about our children. Today is . . .

No. 17. PRINCESSES

When I was talking to you last on this subject, we talked about our sons being princes, “princes in all the earth.” Today we’re talking about our daughters being princesses.

1. 1)    THE PIVOT

This is the Scripture. Psalm 144:12: “That our daughters may be as cornerstones, polished after the similitude of a palace.” I have six points here that we will find in that one little sentence. They’re all starting with “P.” Actually, this first one really doesn’t start with “P,” but I found a “P” to make sure I would have six “P’s,” because I didn’t want to have one that was different!

The real word I am going to talk about here is “CORNERSTONES.” The cornerstone is the first stone that is laid in a building. Every other stone, or whatever materials are used, are placed from the very setting of that cornerstone. That is why Jesus is called “the chief Cornerstone,” because He is the cornerstone of the building of the church.

Let’s read that. Ephesians 2:19-22: “Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto a holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.”

It all hinges, and is founded on Jesus Christ and His Word, His sayings, Who He is. It’s built upon Him. He’s the chief cornerstone. But isn’t it amazing, ladies, that here the Bible calls our daughters “cornerstones”? I used the word “pivot” because the word “pivot” also means that on which something hinges. The pivot is at the very heart, and the head, and the foundation of something.

But the word here, of course, is “cornerstones.” The cornerstone is such a powerful thing. It speaks of many things. It speaks of stability and strength. The cornerstone represents the stability and strength of a building. I remember when Serene’s husband, Sam first started building. He found the remains of a little house. He picked them all up and came out here to the land where we all are. He decided to put it together, to build their first little house.

Well, he had never built in his life! But he went ahead and did it. Today he is a great builder. Everywhere you go, there’s something Sam is building, or directing the building of. But back then, it was all trial and error. He started off with the cornerstone, the first corner. Well, it wasn’t quite in alignment, so it was the funniest house! It was always out of alignment. We would just look at that cornerstone where he started. It would go up one side. It just wasn’t in alignment. It showed how important it is to have the cornerstone perfect.

The cornerstone also speaks of alignment and orientation. Builders carefully position the cornerstone, to align it with the cardinal directions, north, south, east, and west. Symbolically, it signifies alignment with purpose and value and principle. Yes, this is what raising our daughters is all about, mothers.

A cornerstone symbolizes a historical marker. They often put inscriptions on cornerstones that include dates, names, and events relating to the building’s beginning. These historical markers are preserving memories, and commemorating important moments. It symbolically means the continuity and the legacy of a family.

It also speaks of unity and connection. At the point where intersecting walls meet, the cornerstone unites different elements of the building. It symbolizes unity and the coming together of all the different parts to create a harmonious whole.

Let’s think of who our children are. When God calls them “cornerstones,” He is not just saying something flippantly. No, they are cornerstones, ladies. We, as a mother, are a cornerstone in the home. We are the very foundation of our home as we build it and grow it a building unto God. Therefore, the foundation must be right.

We must be founding our home and establishing our home on a right foundation, the foundation of truth, the foundation of what God says. That is the cornerstone, the foundation of what God says. We’re training our children in these truths. It’s not something we can flippantly pass by ladies. We’ve got to be a cornerstone and train our children, specifically our daughters, God is saying here, to be the cornerstones. They’re the cornerstones of the home.

This is interesting. You’ll remember when I was talking about how our sons are like plants, growing up in their youth, growing up into mighty oaks. What are they represented by? They’re represented by plants, growing up into a tree. Where do you find a tree? You will find it outside. The tree grows outside.

Even there, we have the picture of the male being the one who goes forth to provide for the family. He goes outside the home. He’s the one who brings that back to the home which is needed. He’s the provider, and the protector, and the priest of the home. But the cornerstones are inside the home. We’ll see that more as we go on.

               2) And we have a “P.” Our daughters are a PATTERN

Where do I get the word “pattern”? From this same Scripture, “that our daughters may be as cornerstones, polished after the similitude.” That’s the King James language. “After the similitude of a palace.” But the word means “pattern.”

It is the Hebrew word tabniyth, meaning “a model for a building, a structure, a pattern, a plan, an example.” We see the same Hebrew word used in other Scriptures. In Exodus 25:9, it’s speaking to Moses, how he had to build everything after the pattern of the tabernacle.

2 Kings 16:10: “King Ahaz sent to Urijah the priest the fashion,” (that’s the tabniyth, the pattern) “of the altar, and the pattern of it, according to all the workmanship thereof.”

1 Chronicles 28:11: “Then David gave to Solomon his son the pattern of the porch, and of the houses thereof, and of the treasuries thereof,” and many other things. “And the pattern of all that he had by the Spirit.”

Here we see, ladies, that we, as the example, are a pattern for our daughters. God wants our daughters to grow up knowing the pattern for the home. Today, so many young girls are pushed into college, and pushed into careers, great ideas of careers that the parents have for their daughters, but we don’t see that in the Word of God.

The pattern is for the woman to be in the home. That doesn’t mean she’s in the home every second of her life. No, she will go out, of course, and often do wondrous things. But her foundation, the base of where she is, is the home. As she marries, her home is her palace; her home is her kingdom. The home is her vision. Her home is her heart, where she lives and raises her children, and begins to build a godly home that impacts the nation.

God has given the pattern. He’s given that pattern in Titus 2:3-5, where it talks about the woman being the “keeper of the home.”

We see that also in Psalm 128:3: “Your wife is like a fruitful vine within the heart of your home. Look at all those children, sitting around the table.” Another beautiful picture of the mother being in the heart of the home.

Another interesting thing about this Hebrew word tabniyth is that it comes from the root word “to build,” That word is banah, “to build.” The first time that word banah is ever mentioned, ladies, is in Genesis, when God formed the woman. It’s very interesting.

Actually, I was wrong, because God didn’t form the woman. God formed the man. Let’s see it here. Genesis 2:7: “And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.”

But when it comes to the creation of the woman, it doesn’t say that He formed her. He uses a completely different word. We go to Genesis 2:22: “And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman” the word is banah, “builded he a woman.”

The first time the word “build” is used is in relation to women. You’d think that would be to men, wouldn’t you? They’re the ones who build houses and build cities. Oh, no. It’s to women. We, as women, are builders.

What does Proverbs 14:1 say? “Every wise woman buildeth her house, but the foolish plucketh it down with her hands.”

This word here, about our daughters, is also from the root word “build.” Isn’t that interesting? Yes. God wants our daughters to have the pattern of the building because they are going to be building a home. This is the biggest thing, that we prepare and train our daughters for, dear ladies, for the building of their home. We are preparing our daughters, but not for a career.

Oh yes, they may go on mission trips. They may get into some kind of thing before they are married because you don’t know when you are going to be married, but they’re ultimately preparing for their ultimate career which is to build a home. That is the greatest thing in God’s eyes. Here He brings this word into this Scripture to our daughters, that they will have the pattern for the building. Amen? Are you getting it, ladies? Oh, isn’t there so much in the Word? We can just read it, and gloss over it, and don’t realize.

Now we get on to . . .

1. 3)    Our daughters are to be fashioned for a PALACE

Another “P.” We don’t actually see the word “palace,” or do we? Psalm 144. Yes! Here it is! We’ve got “palace” right here in the King James! Yes, “that our daughters may be as cornerstones polished after the similitude” (that’s the pattern. We’ve got “polished,” and “pattern.” We haven’t talked about “polished” yet.) “Pattern of a palace.” Yes, a PALACE!

He’s not even talking about a house! He’s talking about a palace. He wants to raise our sights, dear precious ladies! Dear mothers, we have to raise our sights, even for ourselves. We’re doing more than building a home.

We are building a palace for God’s kingdom!

You see, we belong to a royal kingdom. God’s kingdom is a kingdom. Therefore, we belong to this royal kingdom. We’ve been brought into this kingdom. It’s a royal kingdom.

Some other translations say:

The Berean Study Bible: “Our daughters, like corner pillars carved to adorn a palace.”

The Passion Translation: “Our daughters, with graceful beauty, royally fashioned as for a palace.”

The New English Translation: “Carved in the pattern of a palace.”

You see, ladies, our daughters are designed for royalty. What does it mean to live like royalty? Well, we’re going to live in the palaces of God’s kingdom. We’re going to make our homes like palaces. That doesn’t mean you have to have this, although in the natural, a palace is usually a glorious building, but when we take it to the reality here in our lives, our palace may not necessarily be this great building or flashy building.

It may be just the most little humble home, but a little humble home can be a palace if it’s filled with the Presence of God and it’s being built on the pattern of God’s truth. That’s what makes it a palace, dear mothers. So, don’t be downcast if you don’t live in a great palace. It doesn’t matter where you live. You can make it like a palace.

Now my husband has always loved palaces. He loves big houses and big palaces. When we went to Scotland last year, he just loved going to all the Campbell palaces. We had been to Castle Campbell, just north of Edinburgh. We had been there a few times.

The first time we went there, my husband came to the gatekeeper and said, “I’m home!” The guy looked at him a little aghast. He said, “Well, my name is Colin Campbell,” who was the originator of the Campbells. The guy looked at him a little strangely, and said, “Oh well, I’ll let you in for half price.”

This time we went to Scotland, we went to the main castle, which is still being lived in by the current Campbell, who had originated from right down the line. It was so amazing, just an amazing building. Then we went to a couple of other places. They weren’t actually known as castles, but they were like palaces. We found out that they were also owned by Campbells.

OK, so much for great ornate buildings and palaces. The main thing is that we are building our homes on the pattern of God’s truths, and filling them with the presence of God, and training our daughters to be like royalty, as we are training our sons “to be princes in all the earth.” What does this look like, ladies? How do we train them to be like royalty?

Do we train them to speak like royalty? I think how we speak is very, very important. It actually opens up doors for our children, as they grow into adults, if they know how to speak. If they don’t know how to speak properly, they can be very brilliant, very intelligent, but really, how can they get anything across?

Do encourage your children to speak clearly. If they’re speaking fast and rapidly, and nobody can understand what they’re saying (Oh yes, you will. Mothers always understand what their children are saying). But think of other people who are listening. Are they understanding?

I don’t understand a lot of what young people are saying today. Well, I am getting deaf. I have to admit that. Forgive me. But I can understand those who stand in front of me with an open face and speak clearly. I can understand them perfectly well.

But those who mumble and talk so fast, oh, and then sometimes, oh, forgive me ladies, but I hate to see it. You’ll ask them a question, and they’ll just say, “Yeah.” And then as they open their mouth, they don’t even know how to say, “Yes, thank you,” properly. They’ll just say, “Yeah,” and then you see the green chewing gum bopping all around their mouth. Often, I just want to vomit! Ooh! It’s so revolting.

How are we training our children? Are we training them for royalty? And what it means to go out in society and act with dignity? And like royalty? We just can’t let them get away with some common kind of speech, or common kind of way. No, let’s teach them to act like royalty.

Do we teach them to dress like royalty? Not so today. It’s amazing, isn’t it, ladies, how we fall into the groove? Oh, it’s so easy to fall into the groove. That’s why we started off this series about how we’ve all fallen into the groove, calling our children “kids.” And why do we do that? Because that’s what society does. It’s not what the Bible calls them.

Now we’re up to this point. And we fall into the groove of dressing our children. Most little ones, even from little toddlers, how are their mothers dressing them? They’re dressing them in jeans and tops. Do they realize what they’re doing? That they’re starting their children off on a pattern. You see, we have got to be training our daughters according to the pattern that is the Word in Psalm 144:12. Are you getting it?

According to the pattern. What kind of a pattern? The pattern of a palace. Dear ladies, often we forget this. We’re establishing our darling little ones on a pattern, a pattern, that oh! You just wear pants. That’s how girls dress. No, God wants there to be a difference between male and female. We are living in a transgender society because there has been no distinction for so many years of the dress of male and female. Little by little, the standard gets lower and lower and lower.

But God’s standard is for there to be a marked difference between the male and the female. The Bible talks about that, that the man should not dress like the woman, or the woman like the man. It is an “abomination” the Bible says in Deuteronomy 22:5. If we are preparing them for royalty, we’re training them, preparing them after the pattern, we will be showing them that they’re to dress like little girls.

Yes, not at times, of course, when you’re doing certain things. You will need to wear pants. OK, when you’re taking them horse riding or something like that. But when they’re going out, you’re going to teach them that they’re female. God created them female. Teach them how to dress as a female. Of course, I hope that you are showing an example yourself. You can’t teach what you are not doing yourself.

I find too, in this dressing business, the dressing affects even the way we sit. We do have to teach our daughters how to sit correctly. I see so many girls, and no, not even girls! Sadly, I see women sitting with their legs apart! Sitting like a man! Help! Help!

Women are meant to sit with their legs together. They can cross their ankles. They can do that. They’re not meant to cross their legs like a man does where he puts one leg over his thigh. That’s the way a man sits. And yet today, I see girls and mothers sitting like that! That is man-like. Manly. We are not males. We are females. Dear ladies, we must show our daughters how to be females. How to speak, how to act, how to dress, how to sit.

I think the reason is that so many do sit with their legs in these ways, they sit with their legs apart, is that you can’t do that when you’ve got a dress on! Woo! It doesn’t work. But when you’ve got jeans on, pants on, you can sit like that and get away with it, although it looks ugly and man-like. You can’t cross your legs like a man with a dress. They do with jeans. That’s what they’re wearing, so that’s why they begin to act like a man because they’ve starting dressing like a man.

It is time that we reversed and turned back to God’s ways, to His Word, to His Truth! Dear ladies, I’m not even being legal. I’m trying to teach you God’s heart, and His Word, and how God holds us, the mothers, responsible as to how we train our sons, and as to how we train our daughters. It will be different for each one. We must train our daughters after the pattern of a palace. We lift them up to royalty, dear precious mothers.

What about etiquette? Are you training your daughters in etiquette? Do they know the true etiquette of how to sit at a table, how to set a table, what do to do when they go to a function? Etiquette goes into all aspects of life. There is an etiquette that so many young people don’t even have a clue about today because even their mothers don’t have a clue about it!

I did do some podcasts on this subject, if you didn’t hear them. When I was doing the series, “Mothers are Transmitters of God’s Truths to the Next Generation.” Podcasts 253 up to 257 were all about etiquette. You can relisten to those if you would like to be encouraged in that way.

So, lovely, precious moms, let’s remind our daughters that they’re royalty. They belong to a royal kingdom, the greatest kingdom of all kingdoms. They belong to the King of Kings, and the Lord of Lords. They do not act like the ordinary young person of today. They are set apart as royalty.

1. 4)    Our daughters are to be POLISHED

What does it say? “Polished after the pattern of a palace.” In the palace, they have pillars. These pillars were always made from highly polished marble. They didn’t just put any kind of pillar in a palace. Oh no! They didn’t just get some old bit of wood and stick it up to hold up the building.

No, it was often made from marble, and they would polish them, and polish them until they were polished to a degree of brilliance. This is also our task, as we are polishing our beautiful daughters, and polishing them in godly character, in the graces of the Lord. Amen ?

1. 5)    Our daughters are to be like PILLARS in a palace

Here we get the word “pillars.” I am getting to the end of our time. I can’t believe this! Wow, let me just give you the Scriptures. Maybe I’ll have to talk on it next time. It doesn’t say “pillars” in our King James version. It talks about cornerstones. But in many other translations, it calls them “pillars.” I’ll give you a few.

The Living Bible: “Daughters of graceful beauty, like the pillars of a palace wall.”

New American Bible: “Our daughters like carved columns, shapely as those of the temple.”

Vine’s Translation: “Our daughters like upright pillars, fine wrought for a palace.”

The Good News Bible: “May our daughters be like stately pillars, which adorn the corners of a palace.”

Well, I can’t believe it, ladies. Our time has gone. We’ll talk, because there’s quite a bit about pillars that we need to think about as we are training our daughters. We’ll talk about that next time.

Love you all, wherever you are, whatever country you are in. Hope I’ll get to your country someday, to meet you and speak with you there. We’re hoping, toward the end of this year, to get to continental Europe. I think we’re planning on Hungary and other countries, as the Lord directs, if it is the Lord’s will.

For those here in the USA, keep praying for dear Rebecca, won’t you? Be blessed today, dear mothers. You are in the most amazing career of the whole, oh, the whole land. There’s no greater career than motherhood. When you think of how you’re raising princes in all the earth, and you’re raising your daughters, oh, after the pattern of a palace, it’s just too amazing. Raise them to be royalty.

“Lord, I pray for these precious mothers today. I pray that You will give them such wisdom. Help them to seek after Your truths, that, Lord, they won’t just train their children according to the pattern of this world. Oh God, it’s so easy to get hooked up on the pattern of this world! That everything we do is according to the pattern of Your Word! I pray that You’ll help them to be seekers after Your Word, Lord God, to know the truth with all their hearts, and to train their beautiful daughters in it, Lord God.

“And for all the daughters listening today, and in the families, I pray for them. I pray that You’ll give them hearts to be the daughters that You want them to be, these beautiful daughters who are polished, and who are like the pattern of a palace, who are fit for a palace. Oh, Lord, I pray that their whole vision will be lifted up to know who they are. We ask it in the precious Name of Jesus. Amen.”

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EPISODE 303: Is There A Better Word Than "Kids", Part 5

Do you have sons? Today we talk about raising princes for God. We also look into God’s word to see some of the great things that were accomplished by young men in their teens.

Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, Life to The Full, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Hello, ladies! Good to be with you again. We are still on our series, “Is There a Better Word Than Kids?” And now, we are up to Part 5. I can’t believe that we’re doing so many on this series. I wonder if you have already kicked the habit. I hope you’re still not using the word “kids” after all this time.

Well, I got some news last night. We had another great-grandbaby born into the family. Always so exciting! Cherish and Ben gave birth to another little baby boy. They have Legacy, and now they have Jace. She had a beautiful birth. This little baby is 6 lbs. 13 oz. It was just a lovely little baby.

Who is Cherish? To remind you, Cherish is one of Serene’s daughters. She is married to Ben. They are such a precious couple.

So, we are going to continue talking about all the words that God calls our children. We’re up to number 16! Remember? I’ve got 20 different words that God calls our children. It’s good for us to know these words.

Of course, you will use your own lovely words, and endearing words that you have for your children, but eliminating the word “kids.” We found that that’s really a very humanistic word. The goat company are not really God’s company. It’s the sheep company that belongs to God. So, if you didn’t hear the first session on this one, go back and listen to that.

We are currently on . . .

No. 16. GOD’S CALLS OUR SONS PRINCES

God calls our children, well, specifically our sons, He calls them “princes.” I love that word. If you have sons, dear mother, you are raising princes, young men who belong to the kingdom of God, who belong to the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. They belong to royalty.

Psalm 45:16: “Instead of thy fathers, shall be thy children, whom thy mayest make princes in all the earth.” Isn’t that wonderful? Isn’t that a wonderful vision? To be making princes for God?

As we look into this word “princes” in the Hebrew, it’s the Hebrew word sar. It has a number of meanings. We found out that it means “to be the head. It means to be the ruler.” Now we’re carrying on again.

Thirdly, sar mean TO BE A MASTER

It also means to be a master. God wants our children to be those who can master their lives, who can master their feelings. Yes, our children have feelings, and we need to, as parents, discern when they need ministering. [Talking to children who are whispering among themselves.]

As we are raising princes, God wants us to teach them to be masters of their emotions. Of course, we know that children have all their little emotions. As parents, we have to discern when we need to minister to their emotions. But also, when we see that they’re being led away by their feelings, because as they’re growing, they can very easily get into habits, habits of whining, and grumbling, and always being unhappy about something.

Those are negative feelings. Many times they’re not something that really needs to be ministered to. They need to be dealt with. We need to teach our children that they have to be masters of their feelings. They don’t have to give into whining and pouting and grumbling and feeling sorry for themselves all the time. No! We’ve got to teach them how to put a smile on their face, because as they grow, and as they get older, life will never be perfect. It’s not even perfect as a child. It’s not going to be perfect when we’re an adult.

We have to learn to be master over our feelings, unless it is something, of course, that we understand, and know that we need to minister to them, and love them, and pray with them. But many things are just bad habits. We don’t want them to get into these bad habits that they keep carrying with them into life, because remember, mothers, we are raising, yes, we’re raising our sons to be princes. Then we’re going to talk about raising our daughters to be princesses. But we are also raising our children for marriage.

Dear ladies, remember you are preparing your children for their marriage one day. They’re either going to either have a successful marriage or they will have an unsuccessful one if they go into marriage with all these habits of moodiness, and whining, and self-pity. We don’t want them to do that. We want them to be young children, even growing up in their youth.

Remember, I think we’ve talked about this. In Psalm 144, it talks about our sons being as “plants grown up in their youth.” That even in their youth, they’re learning to master their emotions, growing into young men. We teach them to put a smile on their face, instead of having a grumpy face. We don’t want children to go round with a grumpy face! That’s not the prince!

No, so we teach them to put a smile on their face instead, and to be master of all their fickle feelings. Even in our own lives, we know, don’t we, that feelings come and feelings go. Feelings are not the reality. They’re not the truth. They’re just how we feel. We have to learn to live by the truth. Amen?

Fourthly, sar means TO BE A LEADER

This word sar also means to be a leader. That is a person of princely character. It’s not one who’s easily led to follow others, especially in devious and evil ways. No, they are a leader who is one who knows how to, as we’ve been talking, to be master of their own life, and who can also lead others.

That’s why we have to continually impart God’s truth into our children, into our sons, so that they’re strong in truth. When someone is strong in truth, the truth is really there in them, not just on the outside. They may read the Bible, but that’s not enough. It’s got to get into them. Then they’re not going to be led away and led astray. But they will be those who lead others. That is a princely characteristic.

Fifthly, sar means TO BE A NOBLEMAN

That also means a prince. We are training our children and our sons to realize that they belong to royalty. I wonder if we realize ourselves that we belong to royalty. I think we often forget that don’t we?

It talks about this in 1 Peter 2 that we are a royal priesthood. We’ve been brought into a royal kingdom. God’s kingdom is the highest kingdom in heaven and in earth! Any person who is part of a royal kingdom learns how to live as royalty. But we have been brought into the greatest and highest of all kingdoms.

Therefore, we need to have that sense and that awe about us that we belong to royalty. We’re going to train our sons to act like princes and to act like royalty. They need to be true representatives of the King of Kings, and have about them a heavenly aristocracy, because they belong to God, the King of Kings, and Lord of Lords. Amen?

And lastly, this word sar, which has so many meanings, also means TO BE A PRIEST

We also know that back in the tabernacle days, and the temple days, God had priests to attend to the sacrifices, and to the altars. But now, He has made us all kings and priests unto God. You are a priest. I am a priest. We’re training our children to be priests unto God, because that’s what He said. “You are now kings and priests unto God.”

That is so amazing. There are so many Scriptures that we read that I think we don’t really take them in. We don’t really embrace the truth of them. I know I don’t! And yet I long to come into the truth of all that God has said. Even to take this phrase, “You are now kings,” kings, that means we’re royalty, “and priests unto God.”

Back in the Old Testament, the priests actually served on the behalf of God. They interceded for the people, and they prayed for them. They also ministered to the people. They attended the sacrifices at the altars. When we are teaching our sons to be priests of the home. One day when they have established their own home, they will be a priest of their home. They will be leading their family in the ways of God. We are preparing them now to do that.

I think a lovely thing we can do as our sons are getting a little older, and they’re now learning to read the Word of God on their own. They’re coming to a good age of understanding so that at the family meal table we can sometimes give them an opportunity. You can say, “Bobby, I want you, when you come to the table tonight, to bring a Scripture that God has been speaking to you about. You can read it to us and tell us why it means so much to you, or what God is saying to you about this Scripture.” That’s wonderful training for your sons.

I wonder how many sons you have. You can give them all their turn at doing this. This is important. You are training them to one day be a priest of their home. Then perhaps if you have older sons who are in their late teens, but they’re still at home, maybe there are times when your husband is not home to take the family devotions and read the Word of God to the family. Well, then, you can give that opportunity to your oldest sons, older son or sons, plural, who can have turns.

I think it’s important for them to have this opportunity, to learn how to lead their family, how to read the Word of God to their family, how to conduct a family altar. Because the sad thing is, that today, many, many families don’t have family altars. The reason is because most times the father of the home doesn’t really know how to go about it.

And why? Because it never happened in his home. He’s not used to it. He doesn’t really understand what to do. How do you do something that you’ve never seen done? So, it’s very important that we’re raising a generation who will, when they establish their homes, will establish the family altar, the bringing together of the family to read the Word and pray. That they’ll establish it in their home.

Of course, if they’ve had the example in their home, they should be ready. But it would be good even for them to have the opportunity. That can happen when the husband is away or cannot be there. If you don’t have sons, of course, you can then do it yourself on your husband’s behalf. But that’s a wonderful thing that you can do.

Of course, at our family devotions, we’re teaching our sons to be priests, and our daughters, because we’re all priests, actually. God is talking about all the saints when He says you are all kings and priests unto God. One of the main things of the priests was interceding on behalf of the people. That is prayer. We’re teaching our sons how to pray, so that prayer is part of their lives. It’s so familiar. It’s just like breathing. They grow up praying, so they grow up into their own marriage, bringing this into their own marriage, and being true priests unto the Lord.

We are doing this as we’re preparing our princes. Oh, I hope you’re getting a revelation of this, precious mothers, to raise princes. It says, “princes in all the earth.” We go back to 1 Chronicles 12. We read here about the young men of Israel. They weren’t only raising ones and twos. They were raising thousands of young men who were princes in all of Israel, and princes in all of the earth.

Let’s read about some of them, shall we? You can go back to 1 Chronicles 12 and read more. But it says here:

“The children of Judah ready armed to the war.” How many of them? One or two? No! 6,800!

Isn’t that amazing? These were young men who were ready. They were ready. Did you get that, dear mothers? They were ready, and they were armed to war. They had been trained, and they were prepared for war.

We are all in a war. We’re fighting against the kingdom of darkness. There is such a fight between the kingdom of darkness and the kingdom of God. We’re facing it in our nation at this moment. We will face it in our own lives. Every one of the children will. We need to teach them how to fight against the enemy, and the weapons that we have against the enemy. The weapon of prayer, the weapon of the Word of God.

That’s how Jesus came against the devil. Each time the devil came to Him, He said: “It is written, man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God” (Matthew 4:4.) The Word of God is a weapon against the enemy. When we confess out loud the Word of God, the devil runs! When we begin to pray against the enemy, he flees. And so, we have these weapons of war that we are teaching our children.

Here were young men who were ready. They were ready. It is so sad that there are many young people today who are not ready to face the war. They’re not even ready or prepared for marriage.

“The children of Simeon, mighty men of valor for the war, 7,100.

The children of Zebulun. Such as went forth to battle, expert in war, which could keep rank. They were not of a double heart, 50,000 of them.

The children of Dan, expert in war, 28,000.

The children of Asher, expert in war, 40,000.”

And so it goes on. Thousands of them. They were raised to be mighty young men who were ready.

This is talking about young men. Young men. The ages of 13 to 18 are usually considered the time of adolescence. In our society today, that age, 13 to 18, is often a time of what we all call teenagers. Just on social media, on their video games, hanging out. They’re just being teenagers.

Did you know that the word “teenagers” is not in the Bible? It’s not even in the 1828 Webster’s Dictionary. They didn’t even have it back then. It has been added in later times to accommodate a time frame when many young people waste their time.

We know that in Israel, they have their bar mitzvah. When a young boy turns 12 years, actually 13 years of age for a young man, they have their bar mitzvah. It’s coming from childhood into adulthood. They become more under the tutelage of their father who is training them for maturity, and for adulthood. Then the daughters of the age of 12 have their bat mitzvah, where they are coming from childhood to be a beautiful young woman.

Let me give you some examples in the Bible, shall I, of some of these young men.

What about JOSEPH? Most Bible commentators say that he was only about 17 years of age when he was torn from his family and sold as a slave in Egypt. Imagine, just a young man, torn from his family, whom he loved—his father, whom he loved.

But he was a young man who was ready because he stood strong in faith. He stood strong in truth. He was strong in his character. Even though continually even worse things happened to him, he never caved in. He stood strong. Remember, he was brought into Potiphar’s house to work for Potiphar. Because of the character of this young man, everything he did was blessed. The whole of Potiphar’s house was blessed because of Joseph.

But then we know how Potiphar’s wife thought this young man was really cool. She tried to intimidate him sexually. But of course, he ran from her. His clothes tore, and she had some of his clothing. She turned it on him and blamed him, that he was after her. Of course, then he was thrown into prison.

Well, help! He’s taken away from his family. Now he’s thrown in prison. Did he just curl up in a ball, feeling sorry for himself, and that’s the end of his life? No. No. Then he began to become the one who was looking after everything in the prison! Wherever he was, he prospered, because of who he was, even as a young man. We know the story of how eventually, because of the dreams of the butler and baker, he came out of the prison and became next to Pharoah in the land. But he started just as a young man.

What about DAVID? Most commentators say he was only about 17 years of age when he took on that giant. There were all the others in the army scared stiff, but he was a young man, a young man, a prince in Israel. He was “but a youth” the Bible says, but a youth. The word is naar, meaning “the age of infancy to adolescence.” It’s usually those ages of about 13 to 18. Adolescence, the state of juvenility. So, he was but a youth.

And yet, we see him taking on a giant! I love these words that this young man said. Just think of it! OK, you may have young sons, maybe 15, 16, 17, 18. Can you imagine them taking on a giant, and speaking out these words?

“You come to me with a sword, with a spear, and with a javelin. But I come to you in the Name of the Lord of Hosts, the God of the armies of Israel, whom you have defied. This day the Lord will deliver you into my hand, and I will strike you and take your head from you. This day I will give the carcasses of the camp of the Philistines to the birds of the air, and the wild beasts of the earth, that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel. Then all this assembly shall know that the Lord does not save with sword and spear, for the battle is the Lord’s, and He will give you into our hands.”

Wow! That’s a young man who knows God. He knows His God. He knows he can trust God. He’s not even afraid of the enemy because he knows His God is bigger. This young man was trained and ready to face the battles of life.

What about SOLOMON? David’s son, who was chosen to be king. Once again, most commentators say that he was about 20 years of age when he began to reign over all of Israel. Josephus, who was the great Jewish historian, puts his age at only 14 years of age. His father David called him “young and tender.” So, we know that he was young.

Yet isn’t it amazing? I have to confess that I often just thought in my brain of wise old Solomon. Oh, goodness me, and how God came to him and said, “What do you want?” Solomon said, “All I want is that I can have wisdom to lead these people.” Because he didn’t ask for riches, God gave him riches.

But when God came to him, do you know that was right at the very beginning of his reign, when he was a young man? It was as a young man that he answered the Lord, “I don’t want riches, oh God. I just want to have a hearing heart, to hear Your voice, and to have wisdom to rule Your people.” He began to reign over the biggest kingdom in the earth at that time, just this young man.

OK, what about JOSIAH? Josiah became king at only eight years of age. But then, he had one of the priests who was looking after him and guiding him. Then the Bible tells us, at 16 years of age, still a young man, just a youth, he began to seek God with all his heart. Then, at 20 years of age, still a young man, you want to know what happened?

It tells us in 2 Chronicles 34:3: “In the eighth year of his reign, while he was yet young,” (that’s when he was 16 years of age) “he began to seek after the God of David his father: and in the twelfth year,” (when he was only 20 years of age)“he began to purge Judah and Jerusalem from the high places, and the groves, and the carved images, and the molten images.” And so it goes on.

If you want to read chapter 34, you’ve never read anything like it. It was the biggest revival in the whole history of Israel and Judah when he got rid of every evil thing and totally cleansed and purged the land! It was unbelievable! He was only 20 years of age.

I think in our society today, we have put such a low estimation on our young sons. We’re thinking, “Well, one day they’ll grow up, but they’re just in their teenage years. Let them get on their social media and waste their lives.” No! These are the years that they are meant to be growing up into maturity! And they can do great feats. All these ones that I’ve been sharing with you, they did great feats for God in their teens!

JEROBOAM, 1 Kings 11:28 tell us about him. “And the man Jeroboam was a mighty man of valor: and Solomon seeing the young man,” (he was but a youth) “that he was industrious, he made him ruler over all the charge of the house of Joseph.” And yet he was a young man.

What about ZADOK? 1 Chronicles 12:28. You all know we have a grandson called Zadok. The word zadok means “turning many to righteousness.” Zadok, from a little boy, has always known the meaning of his name. It’s been so implanted into him that that has been his life, from a little child, even to this day. At over 30 years of age, he’s always leading many to righteousness. But this young man in the Bible was called “a young man, mighty of valor.”

What about DANIEL AND HIS THREE FRIENDS? I’m always amazed when Bible commentators say that Daniel and his friends would only have been between 11 and 15 years of age! Wow! We think of Daniel as an old man, too, don’t we? Well, he did become an old man as he lived in Babylon. Some of the stories about him are when he became older.

But at the very beginning, when they first went to Babylon, Daniel and his friends, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, had to come before the Babylonian king. They were meant to be trained in all the ways of Babylon and brainwashed with their deceptions and their false gods. And yet, somehow, in the midst of all that, Daniel stood true. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego stood true. They never, ever bowed. They never bowed.

In fact, here we are today. We’re talking about them. We read about them in God’s Word, and yet, all the other young men that came to Babylon with them, we don’t ever read about them again. We never hear another name, but we hear the names of those young men, because even at a young age, they stood strong for God.

Oh, wow! I can’t believe this session is going so quickly! Just one or two things.

What about the DISCIPLES? We think of them as old men too, don’t we? We see pictures of them with their long beards and so on. But no. No, they were actually young teens as well. Maybe from even 13 to 20 years of age.

We know that Peter was at least 20 because back in Israel, every male over 20 had to pay the tax. It was half a shekel. Remember when Jesus said to Peter, “Go down to the fish, and you’ll find a shekel there to pay the taxes for you and Me.” It was only for Jesus, only for Peter, because all the others were under 20 year of age.

Back then, they matured very early. They were trained for maturity and adulthood. They were well educated at a young age. Often by 13 or 15, they could recite the whole of the Torah, which is the first five books of the Old Testament. At about that age, they would either then apprentice with their father in the family business, or they would go and be with a rabbi, and have further learning as the disciples did. Jesus called them.

A rabbi couldn’t be a rabbi until he was 30 years of age and then he would gather young disciples around him. This was what Jesus did. He gathered these young disciples. And yet these young disciples went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing everywhere. They were young men! Isn’t that amazing?

Just one little thing as we close this session. Wow! Still got so much more to share with you on this subject. But I just wanted to share this as we’re talking about young people. We need to get with Bible language, because we read in Malachi 2:15 about “the wife of your youth.” It talks about getting married at a young age.

That word “youth” in the Hebrew is the word that means “a state of juvenility.” It was most probably late teens. We know that Peter was married. Then, it talks about the daughter having the “husband of her youth.” Once again, it’s youth (Proverbs 2:17 and Joel 1:8).

Then we read Psalm 127:4, where it talks about the “children of the youth.” It’s talking about the husband and “the wife of your youth,” and then “children of your youth.” Having children in your youth. This is Bible language. I know it’s different to our society today, but which are you going to go along with? Do we go along with the Bible, or with our humanistic society? I think I’ll stick with the Bible! Amen?

Well, we’ve got to close this session. I pray, dear lovely mothers, that you have got a vision today, to make your sons princes in all the earth, princes who belong to royalty. Get a vision of training your children and your sons for royalty. Let’s get with the truth! Let’s get with who God want us to be, and what He wants our children to be. Amen?

Let’s pray.

“Dear Father, we thank You so much again for your precious Word, that shows us the way. Lord God, I pray that You will give all these dear mothers listening today who have little sons, and middling sons, and big sons, that You’ll give them a vision, Lord, of making them princes in all the earth. Because this is Your Word, this is the vision You give to us.

“And Lord, this is what You are looking for, when You’re talking about marriage in Malachi 2. You’re saying, “What do I want from your marriage? I want a godly offspring.” You are looking for godly offspring, princes in all the earth, who will reveal Your glory and Your character, and Your royalty.

“So, we ask for this, Lord God, especially in this society and this hour of such deception. We pray for a new caliber of young men to rise up in our nation, young men who will rise up to maturity, even in their youth, like we’ve been reading about these young men of the Bible. We ask it in the precious Name of Jesus. Amen.”

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EPISODE 302: Another January 6 Victim, Part 2

Rebecca Lavrenz continues her story today, and now we wait to hear her outcome.

Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, Life to The Full, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Hello ladies, and young people, and children, and maybe even some of the fathers. Here I am again, with Rebecca Lavrenz. She is continuing to tell her January 6 story. So, where did we get up to last time, Rebecca? I think you had been arrested and put in chains. What happened after that?

Rebecca: I think when we left off, I was sitting in a prison cell. My ankles were shackled, and I was experiencing the love of God. After about an hour and half, after they shackled me on my ankles, the US marshal came up and escorted me up to the courtroom, where I was going to be read my charges and be arraigned. Of course, I had to shuffle with those shackles on my ankles.

The gentleman who was the US marshal who escorted me upstairs was very stern, angry looking. He was like, “Make sure you stay at least six feet away from me and follow the rules.” I felt like I was really being intimidated. Or they tried to intimidate me, make me feel like a criminal.

I got up there and saw all my patriot friends, about 30 or so patriot friends, and my son sitting in the gallery, waiting for me. That was really encouraging. They read me my charges. Not eventful. They said, “Do you agree to these?” I had to agree to turn my passport in. I had to agree to some probationary rules.

Nancy: Have you got your passport?

Rebecca: No.

Nancy: They still have it?

Rebecca: They still have it.

Nancy: So, you can’t leave the country.

Rebecca: No, I can’t leave the country.  Whenever I go from one state to the other, I have to let a probation officer know where I am, all the time.

Nancy: Oh, really? Wow! And you’ve even had trouble flying, haven’t you?

Rebecca: Yes.

Nancy: Oh, wow! What happens when you try to fly? When you did try to fly?

Rebecca: When I did try to fly, they wouldn’t print me out a boarding pass because it has a big red, it’s not a red-flag thing, so to speak. But it’s a big red security thing comes up, like I’m a security risk to the country. I didn’t get a boarding pass.

Nancy: Wow!

Rebecca: I have been able to get on when I wanted to go to something special, which was just one event in Virginia Beach about a year ago today. I went to the 1607 First Landing Project. It was a miracle that got me there. I had to go through a lot of different things with the help of my daughter.

Jennifer helped me get there. I made it, but I love to travel by car anyway, and have an adventure meeting different people along the way, like you. So, it’s fun. But I didn’t get a boarding pass. They treat us like we’re criminals. They want to intimidate us.

Nancy: I know! It’s unbelievable!

Rebecca: It’s awful to see this happening in our country.

Nancy: Yes. And, you know, they made this out to be such an insurrection. A lot of it was lies. In fact, it’s just come out now. It’s been proven that Liz Cheney, who was on the January 6 Committee, had suppressed information on how Donald Trump had asked for 10,000 National Guard troops to be assigned to protect the US Capitol on that January 6 day. But they suppressed all that information and put forth their lies instead.

And yet the year before, Black Lives Matter and Antifa had destroyed cities, and overturned cars, and set buildings on fire, and looted. Nothing happened to them at all. And here, innocent victims like you, just a beautiful, peaceful grandmother, being treated as criminals! It’s just amazing, isn’t it?

Rebecca: Yes. They call us “insurrectionists.” They call it “the breach,” but I believe they’ve already breached it when they broke the covenant that we have with America. We’re called to repair the breach. “A repairer of the breach”. That’s what I call myself. Isaiah 58:12 says that you’re going to be called “the repairer of the breach.” That’s what I believe I’m doing.

Nancy: “And the restorer of paths to dwell in.” It’s a wonderful Scripture, isn’t it?

Rebecca: It is, isn’t it?

Nancy: You were saying something to me about how you felt that we have broken covenant, really, with the original covenants that were made for this country. We talked about the Mayflower Compact covenant that was made when the Pilgrims came. They, of course, covenanted.

I have it written here. “In the Name of God, Amen!” That’s how they started off. I like that. Don’t you? “We whose names are underwritten,” and it goes on, “having undertaken for the glory of God, and the advancement of the Christian faith, and honor of our king and country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern part of Virginia.” It goes on.

But there was another covenant, even before that, wasn’t there? 1607. You’ve got that covenant there. I think, ladies, you would love to hear this covenant. This was actually the very first covenant that was made for America. You read it, Rebecca. I think it’s amazing myself.

Rebecca: Yes, I was privileged to attend the rededication of the first landing covenant, which was in 1607, the first landing at Cape Henry in Virginia.

Nancy: And those people came on three ships, didn’t they? The Susan Constance, the Godspeed, and the Discovery. Three ships. We don’t hear about them so much. We hear about the Mayflower, but these three came first.

Rebecca: Exactly. They landed on the outermost part of our eastern coast at that time. That was Cape Henry. There were 144 men on those three ships, men and boys. There was a pastor on that ship named Robert Hunt. This was his declaration. He set up a cross on Cape Henry. They still have a cross there. It’s not the same one because that was a wooden cross. I believe they carried that cross on the ship. This is their declaration that they made, which I just love:

“We do hereby dedicate this Land, and ourselves, to reach the People within these shores with the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and to raise up Godly generations after us, and with these generations take the Kingdom of God to all the earth. May this Covenant of Dedication remain to all generations, as long as this earth remains, and may this Land, along with England, be Evangelist to the World. May all who see this Cross, remember what we have done here, and may those who come here to inhabit join us in this Covenant and in this most noble work that the Holy Scriptures may be fulfilled. On these very shores, the Gospel shall go forth, not only to this new world, but the entire world.”

There’s a reference that goes with it in Psalm 22:27-28: “All the ends of the world shall remember, and turn to the Lord. And all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee, for the kingdom is the LORD’S, and He rules all the nations.”

Nancy: I just love that! That is the very first covenant declaration over this country. It wasn’t just for them. Two times in this declaration it says: “For the generations to come.” That’s us now. That was their vision, not just for them, but for now--That it would be a country where the gospel would go forth, not only in this country, but out to the whole world.

Isn’t it sad to see where our country is, at this present time? But we have hope. We could just feel like, OK, this is the end. America is the last bastion of freedom in this world. We’ve got to hang onto it, and believe for it, and pray. I don’t believe God is finished with America yet. I believe it was set up to be a shining light on a hill. I think that if God’s people will get a vision to pray, because God has promised . . .

We know 2 Chronicles 7:14. Well, I hope we know it. I think every Christian should know this Scripture by heart: “If My people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.” My vision, my longing, is that families everywhere will begin to pray for this land, and to pray for a great revival, and to pray for a great turning back to God.

I think it starts with families. It doesn’t start with the church. Yes, the church should be a praying church, but the first institution that God ordained was the family—marriage and family. That was the very first institution. Then came church. Then came the government. Now we’ve got it all the wrong way around. Government is becoming tyrannical, trying to put their thing upon us, and make us conform.

But in God’s economy the family comes first. The family has given over too much to the government. We are meant to take responsibility for the government in the family. I believe prayer starts in the family. But there are too few praying families.

There was a time when what was known as the “family altar” was part of every godly home, where they would come as a family, and listen to the Word of God as the father read God’s Word. Then they would pray. They did that morning and evening. That was typical. That was normal for godly families. That is rare today.

I know many of you have the family altar. You do family devotions together as a family. That’s so wonderful. Keep it up. Don’t let it go, because every time you let other things come in, and “Oh, this is happening. OK, well, we’ll do this.” And then you miss that time of prayer! Well, the devil’s really happy, because he doesn’t want prayer! When you’re praying against the works of the enemy, and you’re praying against the works of the devil, wow, he doesn’t like that. He’s going to try and stop you from gathering your family to pray.

Don’t you worry. He’ll bring every excuse. He’ll make everything happen that you can’t do it. But you can do it. You have to make it happen. That’s what we do in our family. We make it happen. It is the most important part of every single day, because it is the most important thing we can do. I believe our nation depends on it.

Look, can you imagine, if every Christian family gathered their family every morning and every evening to pray for the nation? God would answer those prayers. He said if we will pray and cry out to Him, He will hear us, and heal our land. We’re desperate for the healing of our land, aren’t we? I believe it starts with families.

Rebecca: I’ve got to say something. I missed a part that I should have said about that. The day that they arrested me was a Monday at 10 o’clock in the morning. That day was the very time that I have had a prayer meeting with a few other ladies, every morning for five years now. That’s the day they wanted to arrest me. The enemy doesn’t want, like Nancy says, for us to pray.

Nancy: Oh, that’s interesting, isn’t it?

Rebecca: Yes, it is. And the other thing that one of my favorite verses for my calling is that I believe God wants to restore families.  In Ephesians 3:15, it talks about: “Of whom every family on the earth is named.”

Nancy: I know.

Rebecca: He has named every one of our families. We have a generational calling. We have an assignment that’s on each of our lives. I have a daughter who works for the Trump campaign. That’s the calling that our family has, to be involved in the governmental arena, and with leadership, to really raise up our godly nation. I think we need to take that very seriously. Whatever your family calling is, you need to find that out from God, and really walk in it. Listen and obey.

Nancy: Amen! Because this covenant declaration is for the generations. I love that.

Rebecca: God has a multi-generational calling for us. He’s not forgotten about the nations. He’s called every nation for a specific assignment and purpose in our country. As it says in that covenant, in the 1607 Covenant, it says that we will be evangelists to the world. That’s why the enemy hates us. He doesn’t want the Word of God and the gospel to go out to all the nations. If he can do anything to stop it, he’s going to do that. That’s why he’s trying to shut our voices up. But Nancy and I won’t be quiet! [laughter]

Nancy: We will not be silent.

Rebecca: No, we won’t be silent.

Nancy: So, you were also talking to me about how we began this nation on covenants. But really, we’ve become a covenant-breaking nation, haven’t we?

Rebecca: Yes, we have, Nancy. For several years I’ve been involved with a ministry, and some dear friends of mine, with Family Foundations International. One of the basic tenets of their ministry is marriage covenants. I remember telling Craig not too long ago, probably five years ago, “I just want God to give me a platform to share the importance of marriage covenants.”

The reason I bring that up is because ever since I was a child, I always knew that if you got married, it was until death do you part. I know in 1 Corinthians 7, Paul says that you should be married until death do you part. It’s a covenant broken only by death.

I married my high school sweetheart, loved him very dearly. He loved me, but there were some things and issues in his life that he could never really get right with God and take care of them. I had a very troubled marriage. There was a lot of adultery and things like that. I knew though, that I would always remain faithful to my husband, no matter what. We did have to separate for a while because of the adultery, but we never were divorced, and I remained faithful because God says He hates divorce and remarriage.

This may sound contrary to a lot of people, but my belief is that covenant is what our country was based on. Marriage covenants are also are covenants, and God takes covenants very seriously. I have to share this story. I shared it with Nancy this morning, and she said, “Say whatever you want today.”

A couple of weeks ago, it was on a Sunday. I was getting ready. I was going to do a radio interview in a few days. I think that was probably on my heart. “OK, God, what do You want me to share?” I had gone to bed, probably late. I usually try to get to bed a little earlier than that. I was up late, so I didn’t think I’d sleep.

I thought I might sleep in, but all of a sudden, at 5:30 I heard this knock at the door. I live out in country, and I have a door knocker on my door. I have a large house, and all of a sudden I woke up. Somebody is knocking on my door knocker at 5:30 in the morning. I thought, “Who in the world would be here?” I looked out my window, and I didn’t see anybody there. I sat up abruptly.

All of a sudden I realized that this is not Eli calling me, like in the Bible. This is not somebody. God’s calling me! I woke up, and immediately God was starting to share with me. “The reason your country has so much turmoil, and why your covenant through your country is falling down, is because you’ve broken my marriage covenant.”

It’s not just the covenants we have, the two covenants that Nancy and I read about and talked about just a few minutes ago. It’s the covenant of marriage. We have broken that, because not just the world, but we have taken on the world’s ways. If we don’t feel good about our husband, or if we feel like he’s betrayed us, or he’s committed adultery, we need to break that covenant. God’s not happy with that.

Just like we have so many people crossing the broken-down barriers around  our border, I believe that our country has been broken down. The enemy is coming and can steal because we have broken our marriage covenant. I felt like God was saying that to me very clearly when I woke up that Sunday morning about two weeks ago. I feel like part of my voice is to say that.

We, as a nation, like Nancy has said in 2 Chronicles, “If My people will humble themselves and pray, and turn from their wicked ways . . .” I believe part of that wicked way is accepting divorce and remarriage in the body of Christ as normal. We have said it’s OK, and because we have said that, and done that, we have grieved the heart of God. Because I do spend a lot of time with God, I do spend a lot of time. The cry of my heart is to know Him and to know His ways. I believe He will speak to us if we listen to Him carefully.

As a nation, I think we need to repent of breaking covenants with our marriages. Then God will restore our land, because when God says to repent and turn from our ways, it’s because we’ve put other. . . When He said that in 2 Chronicles, He was saying that we have left our first love. We have not obeyed God. Even in Ephesians 5, it says our marriages and our families should represent Christ and the church.

If we can’t love somebody, does God not love us when we mess up? Yes, my husband messed up. I haven’t done everything right. I haven’t loved him the way I should. But is He going to say, “Time’s up! X out. You’re out of my life. I can’t take you back”? No, He will take us back, and He’s always faithful to us. We need to repent and say, “God, will You forgive me?”

This is not meant as a condemnation to anyone who has been divorced, but it’s to acknowledge what God really says about that; repent and receive His forgiveness, but don’t pass it on to the next generation. That’s part of my message, to repent from that, and God will repair the breach if we repent first. That’s important.

God has done wonderful things in my life as I stayed faithful to my covenant marriage. My husband passed away eight years ago. God is faithful. We need to be faithful. If we repent, I think He will repair our country and give us those paths to dwell, and the streets where we can walk freely, without being stolen from—and stolen elections. As a people, we’re the ones who are called to return to a godly nation.

Nancy: Yes, amen. I guess you know, as you look back, and your husband has now passed away, you must feel so glad that you didn’t divorce.

Rebecca: Yes. There was a time when I felt that we were divorced. The records in the county say that we’re not. I’m very pleased and happy that God is always faithful, even when we haven’t been faithful to Him.

Nancy: You were sharing with me about something a friend of yours shared. What was that now?

Rebecca: This is really a confirmation to me. About a year ago, I was talking to a new friend of mine at a meeting I was at. It was a Republican meeting. She’d been married to a high official in our government. She said to me this statement I’ll never forget. “Every time there is a divorce, a little piece of America dies.”

That didn’t come from my mouth. That was from another believer in God. I believe that is true. America is dying because of that. If we will repent, just like 2 Chronicles 7 says, we will restore our country, and God will heal our land. That’s my message.

Nancy: I think there are so many areas where we need to turn back to Him. What does the Word say? “Judgement begins at the house of God.” It starts with the believers repenting and turning back, and crying out to God. How I long to see this, because I want to see this nation healed. I want to see this vision fulfilled a godly nation. Yes, because I believe that is God’s intention.

Ungodly laws, and OK, this is a free nation. People can come to this nation who have all kinds of beliefs. They can be atheists. That doesn’t matter. They’re welcome to come. But we still want it to be founded on godly principles. They are erasing. What does it say? “If the foundations,” the Psalmist cried out, “if the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?” (Psalm 11:3).

Well, what can we do? We have to build them again. We have to pray them back in. We have to build them back in. Of course, that starts with families again. It starts with families. Their hearts being turned back to families. Fathers, the hearts of the fathers being turned to their children, the hearts of the mothers being turned back to their homes.

We have become a generation, even in the church, where there are more mothers out in the workforce than there are at home. That’s not God’s intention. God gave His plan for the male and the female. The male was meant to be the one who got out there and earned the bread; who protected and provided for his family, and was the priest of his home. God has always intended the mother to be there in the heart of the home, raising the children, embracing children, training the children, making the home the most wonderful place on earth. That is the plan.

Even in the church, there are people who reject that plan. But that’s the biblical plan. That’s there in the Word. That’s what we see. We’ve got to get back to God’s ways, because the family is fragmenting because of women leaving the home. The Bible says that the fathers’ hearts will turn back to the children. I think that includes the mothers’ hearts too. We need a turning back to God’s original plan. Amen?

Rebecca: Amen! I remember my father saying that back in the 1960’s. He said the breakdown of our country started when women thought they had to work outside the home.

Nancy: Yes, that’s so true, because that’s when the devil can get ahold of our children’s hearts  if the mother is not there. A mother needs to be there for her children. Today I think another thing, of course, is the humanists, and the socialists, and the liberals have taken over our education system.

There was a time, many, many years ago, when you could send your children to school and know they’ve been taught the basic things they need to be taught, instead of all this sex education, and transgender; everything that’s against God and His Word.

I was reading on the internet the other day of some of the horrific things that are happening in some of the schools. I can’t even imagine how any godly parents can allow their children to be there! There was a time when we didn’t face such things. But we are today. We have to be aware of the times.

As it says about the tribe of Issachar, “They had understanding of the times, to know what Israel should do.” I think we have to have understanding of the times now, to know what we should do. There was a time when maybe you could send your children to school, and they would receive a basic, good education. Now, even the education is failing as they are being taught all this terrible stuff. It’s been pushed on our children. How can we even send them to those places? Wow! We’ve got to pull them out.

I often think of how David, before he went and killed Goliath, he had some practice. He had even killed lions who had come to get his little lambs. He said how he even put his hand in the mouth of the lion, and pulled out his lamb. I think that’s what some parents have to do today. They’ve got to go in and pull their little lambs, and their children, out of this evil system! Imagine if every Christian did this, and pulled them out? Well, goodness me, their system would economically fall flat. Then they’d have to change.

Christians have such power to influence the nation, if we would only stand up! Just think of when they took prayer out of schools, and when they took the Word of God out of schools. Then what happened? Christian parents did nothing. Imagine if they’d all pulled their children out of schools? Well, they’d soon have to change their ways, wouldn’t they? We have to act, don’t we? We have to speak up, and act up.

Was there anything else on your heart that you want to share, as we’re getting to the end of this session?

Rebecca: This one thing came to mind. I was thinking of Martin Luther, and of course that is attributed to him. I don’t know if it is, in fact. But I don’t know how to quote it all exactly. But he said that if you, as a Christian, are not fighting against what the devil is fighting for the most, then you’re not really professing Christianity at that moment.

And I believe the danger that our country is in, especially since we do have Covenants and a Constitution. Many, many countries don’t have a covenant like we have. I don’t think any do, other than Israel. God made a covenant with Israel, but we made a covenant in 1607 and 1620 with God.

That covenant has been broken, and it’s broken because we have broken it. Not only that covenant, but marriage covenants. We’ve been flippantly saying that those covenants are not OK. The enemy is fighting us so strongly because of that. I think that if we repent, then God will restore. He will close those borders up, and we’ll get back our godly country.

Nancy: Yes. Oh, how we need those borders closed!

Rebecca: Amen!

Nancy: Oh, wow! Yes! Are you praying, lovely ladies? I’m often asking you this question, aren’t I? We often talk about this, but, oh, I can’t really talk about it enough, because I find that so few are still doing it. We’ve got to get back, as families, to pray together, and cry out to God for this nation. And cry out for great revival, and turning back, because let’s believe that this nation will turn around! Amen?

Rebecca: America will arise. It will rise again, and we’ll come back because God is God.

Nancy: I’d like to close by reading this again. This 1607 Covenant on the very first landing, when they came to the States. We always think of the Mayflower and the Pilgrims coming but these were the first people who came. Let’s read this dedication again, because it’s for us today. It was for the generations.

“We do hereby dedicate this Land, and ourselves, to reach the People within these shores with the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and to raise up Godly generations after us.” This is what we are doing now, lovely mothers. We’re not only raising children for today. We’re raising generations to come.

Well, we don’t know how long it will be until the Lord comes. I know we’re always taught that we’ve got to be ready. He could come at any moment. But as I read the Word of God, and I read promises that have yet to be fulfilled in Israel, many things that are yet to be fulfilled, I wonder when will the Lord come? I’ve always wanted to be one of those who goes out when the Lord comes.

I remember that was the dream of my mother, that she wanted to go up with the shout, and the voice of the archangel. But she didn’t. I sometimes wonder whether I even will. It may be the next generation, or the next. But in the meantime, we keep building and raising godly generations. Amen?

Rebecca: Amen!

Nancy: “And with these generations take the Kingdom of God to all the earth. May this Covenant of Dedication remain to all generations, as long as this earth remains, and may this Land, along with England, be Evangelist to the World. May all who see this Cross,” and it’s still there today. Well, not the original, but there’s still a cross right there on Cape Henry to remind us.

“And to remember what we have done here, and may those who come here to inhabit join us in this Covenant and in this most noble work that the Holy Scriptures may be fulfilled. On these very shores, the Gospel shall go forth, not only to this new world, but the entire world.” Amen and amen.

Let’s believe for this to take place. Especially the greatest thing that we can do in this nation, dear mothers, is to raise godly generations, to raise children who are godly children, who will come forth from our homes to bear witness to the revelation of who God is, and be His Image in the earth, and to take out His truth His gospel.

I think of Malachi 2, where it’s talking about marriage. God says: “I hate divorce.” Well, he loves divorced people, but He hates the spirit of divorce, because it touches the godly seed. He says, “What do I want from your marriage?” Then we read, and the answer comes forth from God Himself. “I want a godly offspring.”

That’s what God is looking for in our children. That word “godly” in the Hebrew is Elohim. I never fail to be in awe as I read this, because Elohim is the Name of God. It’s the first name we read in the Bible. “In the beginning, Elohim.” This Scripture says: “I want Elohim children. I want children who bear My Image, who reveal who I am.”

Precious mothers, we have the greatest career in this nation. We have the highest career. There is nothing more powerful than pouring into our children His truth from the Scriptures, and His ways, and praying into their lives, that they will become these godly children. Godly offspring. Elohim offspring. As we raise these children, that is going to change the nation, because the nation will be what the next generation will be. Amen?

Rebecca: That’s why I would suggest, go to my website, https://restoringgodlyculture.com/.

Nancy: Amen. Did you get that? https://restoringgodlyculture.com/. There you’ll be able to keep up with Rebecca and her story. Now you’re getting this podcast. She will already have done her court case. We’ll be waiting to hear. You’ll be able to find out what is happening by going to that website. Amen.

Rebecca: Thank you, Nancy.

Nancy: The Lord bless you all.

“I pray, Father, for each one listening today. I pray that You’ll bless their lives. I pray that You’ll give them a vision for this nation, and where they’re living in all their nations around the world. Many are listening in different nations. I pray that God will give you such a burden for your nation, and to pray for your nation. Let’s all become praying families. Lord, I pray that you’ll put the spirit of prayer upon every family listening. In the Name of Jesus. Amen.”

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DON’T FORGET TO TELL OTHERS ABOUT THIS PODCAST, “LIFE TO THE FULL” WITH NANCY CAMPBELL.” DON’T KEEP THE BLESSINGS TO YOURSELF. IT IS ENCOURAGEMENT FOR ALL WIVES AND MOTHERS.

 

THE UPDATE:

You’ll be wanting to know what happened to Rebecca as she spent nine days in court in Washington DC. I’ll share some writings from her and others.

FROM HER LAWYER:

“My client, Rebecca Lavrenz, a 71-year-old great-grandmother and nurse, followed a peaceful group into the Capitol on January 6^th. She didn't speak a word while inside the building for 10 minutes. She prayed in silence and walked with the group.

Two years later, Rebecca turned herself in to Federal Marshals after the FBI came to her home. She was treated like a violent and dangerous criminal: handcuffed with a belly chain around her waist and placed in ankle chains.

Through my organization, the National Constitutional Law Union (NCLU), I represented her to the best of my ability, returning to my Harvard Law roots. Still, the verdict would have been the same regardless of my effort.

This was a disgusting show trial. The Department of Justice followed the same playbook as the other J6 trials. They obstructed, deceived, and placed Capitol Hill Police on the stand to literally shed tears about their fear on January 6^th of the “Praying Grandma.”

We cannot give up the fight for Rebecca and must move on to the appeal process.

Rebecca will be sentenced on August 12^th. She faces a sentence of up to three years in federal prison and fines of up to $210,000.

My job before then is to pour myself and NCLU's staff into defending Rebecca's character. She has never been in any type of trouble and has no criminal history. On January 6^th, she damaged nothing inside the Capitol—she didn't even make a sound!

Regardless of the sentencing, the guilty verdict imposed on Mrs. Lavrenz is nothing more than political payback by Biden and the Deep State bureaucrats in the federal government who believe their job is to control the American people, not SERVE the American people!

We must appeal ANY sentence imposed on Rebecca, but it will cost us tens of thousands of dollars.

John M. Pierce
Chairman and Founder
National Constitutional Law Union

REBECCA WRITES:

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April 2^nd

“This pretty well sums up the day from my daughter Laura, "Mom, when this is all over, we're going to write a book and go to law school TOGETHER!!!"

It's interesting how it feels being in a trial where I'm accused of criminal activity and called a "rioter" by the United States of America. . . "my country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty" while being shown on a screen 1/2 the day, along with 14 jurors, video footage of thousands of people waving their American flags and shouting U.S.A.! 

April 4^th

“I am in utter disbelief by today's verdict. Never in my life did I imagine that my own government would charge me as a criminal for exercising my religious liberties and rights to free speech, which are guaranteed by the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. They are trying to stop our voices, put fear in our hearts and take away the inalienable rights given to us by God.

But I will not let that happen to this praying great-grandma as long as I have breath. I've never considered myself a victim and I'm not about to start now. I'm taking a deep breath, finding a place to rest for the night as we head back to Colorado, then will spend some extra time with God to find out His plan for what's next.

I had thousands of people around the world who know how to pray, praying on this case, and because of that I believe my Father wanted it to turn out this way so my voice for Him and our country could be amplified LOUDER! All that has transpired over the last 9 days gave me a first- hand experience that the situation in our country is worse than many people realize, and they need to be alerted. I will be that VOICE!

Thanks for all your prayers and support these last nine days. God does have a plan and we WILL "Make America Godly Again!

Sentencing is August 12, and I will be appealing my case.”

April 7th

“Now, officially a federal criminal, no longer "alleged," after the verdict of "GUILTY " by the U.S. Government, I will be in a probationary period until August 12 when I will be back in our nation's Capitol to be sentenced. During this period I'll be watched and examined for what kind of a citizen I am, in order to determine the severity of the punishment I should receive for my crimes. 

More tears as I consider how far our country has fallen . . . not for what could happen to me but for the blindness that covers the eyes of those who are trying their best to offend with words like the following in an email I received today: "I'm really happy that you were found guilty. I hope you serve the full year, traitor. I hope the other inmates beat you daily. If it was up to me, you would have been tried for treason and punished accordingly. May you rot."  I will forgive this person and pray for him.”

OUR PERSONAL STORY:

I shared this little bit of our personal story at the end of transcript 301. I am sharing it again in case you didn’t read it because most of the nation was brainwashed about January 6. My husband and I experienced it as one of the most wonderful days of our lives, and although we were all around the Capitol for over three hours, we never saw anything except peaceful patriots enjoying this wonderful day.

“My husband, Colin and I were very blessed to attend the STOP THE STEAL Rally on January 6. After the rally we walked up Pennsylvania Avenue with thousands of others to the Capitol. We must have spent two or three hours around the capital, mingling with thousands of others. The amazing thing was that we never saw any violence at all. Those who entered the Capitol (and the doors were opened by the Capitol police, and you will have seen videos of them welcoming people in!) must have done so from another door or at a different time as we never noticed anything untoward.

At one time we saw about 40 – 50 police walk out of the Capitol, two abreast. They walked right in front of us, close to us. But not one of them said one word to us. They never told anyone to leave. They never said, “There has been an insurrection. All people must leave.” They never opened their mouths.

In the late afternoon, we thought we had better walk back to our hotel after a wonderful and joyful time. Then we began to get phone calls from our grandchildren. “Nana and Granddad, are you alright? They are telling us on TV that terrible things have been happening!” We had no idea what they were talking about and yet we were right there with thousands of others and hadn’t seen a thing!

~ Nancy

 

 

LIFE TO THE FULL w/ Nancy Campbell

EPISODE 301: Another January 6 Victim

Today I introduce to you Rebecca Lavrenz. She is on her way to Washington DC for her court trial. On January 6, 2021, Rebecca, a great-grandmother drove all the way from Colorado for the Rally.

In the afternoon she noticed people walking into the Capitol, so she followed them in. She walked around for 10 minutes and walked out! Later she was arrested by the FBI for walking into the People’s Capitol, and now waits for her trial.

Announcer: Welcome to the podcast, Life to The Full, with Nancy Campbell, founder and publisher of Above Rubies.

Nancy Campbell: Hello, wonderful ladies! Always so great to be with you. Now, at the moment, I’m in the middle of our series. We’re talking about all the different words that God calls our children. Remember, I was talking to you about “kids,” the word that everybody uses for their children. But it’s not a biblical word. We are talking about better words to call our children.

But, however, I’m going to have to let that go today. We’re going to come back to it because I’ve still got lots more to tell you there. But today, I have a very special guest all the way from Colorado. She and her daughter have come to stay with us this weekend.

Actually, Rebecca is her name, Rebecca Lavrenz. Rebecca is on her way to Washington DC, where tomorrow, wow, is it tomorrow? No, it will be next week. The 25^th of March, she will be going to court for having been in the Capitol on January 6, 2021. OK, have I got your ears? You’re going to want to hear this story.

Colin, my husband, and myself were very, very blessed to be in Washington DC for that rally on January 6. I have to say, it was one of the most wonderful days of our lives. It was so amazing! That seems an incredible testimony, doesn’t it, when you hear all these things about that day, and people saying it was an insurrection and all these terrible things that happened.

Well, I have to tell you that I didn’t see one thing happen! Maybe I’ll tell you more as we go along, but we’re going to start off, and we’re going to hear Rebecca’s story, because she also went that day.

Wow! Now, here you are, and you’re on your way to a court case. So, Rebecca, it’s so wonderful to have you with us. You have a story to tell, and maybe you’ll just start from the very beginning. How did you even get the vision to go to that day?

Rebecca: Well, it sounds like we’re talking about The Sound of Music when you say, “Let’s start at the very beginning, right? [laughter] Well, first of all, I want to say, thank you, Nancy. I’ve followed you and your magazine since the ‘90’s. One of my sisters turned me on to your magazine, and I just loved it, because it goes back to very godly values that I think we’ve lost in our country. That’s very important, and I really, really appreciate you having me on the call and standing up for the values that are on God’s heart.

That’s where my story begins, because ever since I was born again in my teens, and I’m in my ‘70’s now, I made that decision that when I became a Christian, my life was no longer my own. As someone else has said, “I didn’t coin this phrase.” No, I’m just a coin in Jesus’ pocket. Use me however You want, and I’ve realized that.

One of the really foundational Scriptures that is important to me is that Jesus said to deny yourself. “Take up your cross and follow Me” and love Him with all your heart. Because that’s always been foundational in my heart. I’ve always made my mission in life to seek God with all of my heart, all of my soul, and to make Him Number One.

I kind of began my actual journey to the Capitol on January 6, probably at the end of December. My oldest son lives in Colorado Springs; I live just outside of Colorado Springs on five acres. He texted me, called me, and said, “Mom, are you thinking of going to the “Stop the Steal Rally” in Washington DC?”

I said, “Well, I hadn’t really considered it at all,” because I do have a bed and breakfast in Colorado, and I had some guests coming. My daughter, who sometimes runs things for me, was out of town. He said, “Well, Mom, I really think you need to pray about it.”

He had actually had a word for me back in October, my oldest son. It was quite interesting. He had a word for every one of his siblings as well as me. He said, in that little word, and I look back at it often, he said, “You are a pioneer, not only in prayer, but in action. You go places where other people won’t go.”

I thought of that later on, as you will see my story unfold. At the end of December, first of January, he said, “I think you need to pray about it, Mom.” I said, “OK, I’ll pray about it.” It didn’t take me too long after praying to feel like God really wanted me to go on this trip. I thought, “Oh, God, but how’s it going to work?” All the different details I had to work out. I was 68 at the time.

But then He said, “Rebecca, if you take on this venture, it’s going to extend your life, and you’re going to have so much joy and adventure.” I got excited about it. “Oh, this is going to be fun. It’s going to be an adventure. I’ve got to go after what God wants me to do.”

I’ve always been a believer in staying close to God. I spend a lot of time in quiet time with God because I want to hear His heart. That’s what I value too, about this call, is because I know the people who are listening to this, as well as you, Nancy, are listening to what God wants. Hopefully I’m listening to God’s heart.

I got excited about it and made the decision to go. My daughter, Jennifer came home to take care of things at my property. Then I woke up the next morning after my decision, and I looked at my bank checking account. I realized there was a $600 deposit, stimulus from President Trump. I thought, “Oh, my goodness! Here I’ve got the money for gas!”

Typically, it’s a long way from Colorado to Washington DC. My son said, “Mom, I know you won’t fly, because you never wear a mask. They might have to deal with that on the plane. It’s only 25 hours. You can make it.” I thought, “Oh, good! That’s another adventure!”

Nancy: So, you did it by yourself?

Rebecca: Yes.

Nancy: Wow, that is amazing!

Rebecca: I knew I was going to be very focused. I knew when I made the decision to go that I would fast and pray, because I wanted to really hear God, and not my own thoughts.

I got in the car the morning of the fourth, drove halfway, to St Louis, and the next drove the rest of the way to Washington DC. I got there in the evening and met up with my son and my grandson who were also going. Of course, I was tired from driving all day, but I still went back to the room in the house where my other daughter was working for the Republican National Committee.

She was out of town that day, so she said, “Stay in my room, Mom. It’s only $4 in the Capitol.” I went to bed that night. The next day I got up and left around 10 o’clock. I’ve got to tell this little story to you, if we have time.

Nancy: Yes!

Rebecca: When I left Colorado, I thought, “Well, I’d better make sure I have everything red, white, and blue, right?” So, I found a white scarf that belonged to my daughter Laura, and then I had a red-and-white scarf that belonged to my favorite aunt. She shared the same birthday with me. Her name was Laura. Both of those ladies, my daughter, and my aunt, were named “Laura.”

Thinking about it later, I realized, because names mean so much to me, and also to God, I looked up the name “Laura.” I already knew the name “Laura” means “victorious one.” It was really exciting, because we’re going into this in victory. I thought, “We’re going to the Capitol. I’m going here with millions, thousands, millions,” I know you know, Nancy. We saw that sea of people.

Nancy: Oh, yes! I think there must have been at least two million people. When we were at the Rally, you looked back, and you couldn’t even see the end of the crowd. It was so amazing!

Rebecca: Yes, it was amazing. We think there were two million, I just learned yesterday. Nancy, you had that class last night on American Covenant and there was a quiz. When the Revolutionary War started, they said there were two million people in the United States at that time.

Nancy: That was two million Christians, they said.

Rebecca: Oh, two million Christians!

Nancy: That was interesting.

Rebecca: Interesting! So, going back to the story, I got there, and like Nancy said, there was such peace and joy. Just a real patriotic feeling when we got there. I got there about ten o’clock, and I felt such an excitement.

Nancy: Now, you went straight to the Capitol, didn’t you?

Rebecca: Yes.

Nancy: We went to the Rally first. That was really amazing, with people all around us. So patriotic. I think one of the most beautiful times was walking up from the Rally, right up Pennsylvania Avenue, right up to the Capitol. Everyone was walking, and they were walking up other streets as well.

But Pennsylvania Avenue was crowded. People were singing hymns and singing patriotic songs. Yes, lots of placards with “Stop the Steal,” but also lots of placards with Bible verses, lifting up Jesus. It was so amazing.

Rebecca: Yes, I remember that right beside me, where I was, there were a couple of Asian ladies blowing shofars. It was very much a time of rejoicing, knowing that we were standing up for our country. I think that’s what’s so encouraging to me, even as I go along this journey this past year since I was arrested.

It’s exciting to know that there are millions of people who really do love our country. That’s why we’re here, right? On this podcast, to get the voice out there. We’re not outnumbered. There are millions of people who love our country. We are speaking out, because we want to save it. Our country’s in trouble!

But nothing’s impossible to God. He’s the One. Nancy and I were talking this morning about His government. The government is upon His shoulders, and He will bring it back in order (Isaiah 9:7). So, we have to rely on Him.

Back to my story. I was there, meeting lots of people, like Nancy was, in a different area. I got there, and then I realized I had actually positioned myself. I said, “How can this happen, that I’m right smack-dab in the front of the Capitol doors on the east side of the Capitol?” And right across from the Supreme Court which I think is another important significance, because to me, that represents truth and justice, the Supreme Court.

I was standing in the front of there and I texted my daughter back home. I said, “I don’t know what I feel. This feels interesting that God would place me, that I would be able to stand right in the front. What is God doing in my life?” I said, “I don’t know if I feel like going to the Ellipse.” I had the opportunity, of course, but I thought, “Oh, I don’t know if I want to walk all the way over there or not.”

So, I stayed on the east side of the Capitol and walked around and met a few more people. I was there probably an hour and a half. I looked to the left of me, and there was a platform where there were some people who were worshipping God on this microphone. They were praying and singing, as you said. They were pointing to the Capitol and decreeing and declaring things over the Capitol building.

I thought, “Oh, I’m going to walk over there!” I thought that would be a little diversion. So, I walked over there. Before I even got to the platform, before I got to the grassy area where that platform was, all of a sudden, the Spirit of God fell over me. I could sense the presence of God come on me. I couldn’t even stand up, Nancy. I had to sit down, and I started weeping.

I started crying and crying. I realized at that moment, I was crying and interceding for my country. It was an overwhelming experience. I’ve had those kinds of experiences a few times in my life, but not very often. I knew it was about God and our country.

Then I got up, walked over, and watched what was going on. Then, all of a sudden, the boldness of God came over me. I felt like I needed to ask if I could pray on that platform. They were done singing, and I asked them. They said, “Sure, go ahead!”

I got up there, and I felt led to pray the 1620 Mayflower Compact, which is a covenant that we have that our Pilgrim forefathers made in 1620 before they got off that Mayflower ship.

Nancy: That’s right! They made it on the ship, before they even got off.

Rebecca: Before they even got off. They knew that there was a bigger purpose than just themselves, that they were willing to die for. Half the people died anyway, but they knew they were here for a purpose.

I declared on that platform that this country would give glory to God and advance the Christian faith. That’s about all I said. Got off, and then I went right back to where I was before. It was about noon, and that same place was open! Standing right before the barricades stationed at the front door.

I felt like we were standing for God. I’m praying quietly to myself and saying this country will listen to the truth. This is our last bastion of hope, almost, because I felt like I’d been involved in a lot of grassroots things in the end of 2020, with helping develop leadership, and some other areas to create more awareness about what was going on. The plandemic wasn’t right.

I just felt that Trump won the election, that our country would take the right procedures to go through, and nothing was working. But then I said, “We’re here, because this country is about “We the People.” The people who work in those offices were elected by us, and they need to hear our voice.” Not necessarily a specific voice, but just the presence of so many people being there.

Nancy: Yes, just being there. I think that’s really why most people went, just to be there, to be a stand, to say, “We realize this election has been stolen. This is not right. We’re standing for truth, and for righteousness, and for justice.”

Rebecca: Yes, and the principles that our Founding Fathers established in the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, all those founding documents. We are still the United States of America. We believe in those principles and values, and we came together.

Nancy: And “We the people,” that’s how it starts. “We the people.” We’re not meant to be governed by tyranny. It’s “We the People.”

Rebecca: We believe that, and I know you do too, because you’re a very strong believer in that. Thomas Jefferson, and I’m not quoting it exactly right, said, “When the people fear the government, that’s tyranny. But when the government fears us, that’s freedom.” That’s what we wanted. We want freedom. We don’t want them to be afraid of us. This is who we are.

Fast forward. I think it was about noon when I got back. Then I remember at one point, there was somebody shaking the barricades, the bike racks. The person right beside me said, “Don’t do that! Don’t do that!” They were stopped. They weren’t wanting that. We weren’t.

About two o’clock or so, I don’t remember the time frame. All of a sudden, I don’t know how it happened, but the barriers just came down. The barriers came down, and all of us decided, “Well, let’s go forward!” Then we went across the plaza, walked up the steps. We were standing up there. I had this sense in me.

I remember texting my daughter at home. or calling, and saying, “Jennifer, I believe that if those doors open, God wants me to go through.” She said, “OK, whatever the Holy Spirit says to you, go for it!” I remember somebody blowing a shofar right next to me. We were standing there, looking at the doors. All of a sudden, I saw that they were open, and I started moving in with the rest of them.

I went into that Capitol building, Nancy, and all I could see, and you will understand this, was the faces . . . I have seven grandchildren, and I saw the three youngest ones. At that time, I think they were 8, 6, and 4, or a little bit younger. I could see their faces, and I said, “I will not let this country go down to Marxism or socialism on my watch.”

I’m a very strong prayer warrior, and I know God’s Word says that “Faith without works is dead.” I’m not going to let my faith be dead here. I’m active, and I was in there, and I felt like I was at the right place at the right time. “For such a time as this,” because our country’s in trouble, and I’m going to do my civic duty. Not just the civic duty. God created our nation, and I am doing what’s on God’s heart.

I was in there, and I felt this exuberance inside me, that I was doing what God wanted me to do. I got in there. It was probably about a quarter to three, something around that time. I walked around a little bit within the ropes. Never said anything, didn’t do anything disruptive. No violence or pushing. I didn’t see anything. In fact, I heard people in the background saying, “Don’t do any violence!”

People were peaceful, and still the same as they were outside, not creating any violence. I walked down a hall because I felt we wanted our presence to be even clearer before the congressmen. All of a sudden, a guy in front of me turned around. I said, “Why are we turning around and going?” He said, “We’re just going out because the congressmen have already left the building.”

To me, that was confirmation too, that our purpose was not to create violence, but to make our presence known. Then I walked out and stood outside for a while, and then went back to my daughter’s.

Nancy: So, you wouldn’t have been there very long at all?

Rebecca: Only about ten minutes.

Nancy: Ten minutes.

Rebecca: Going into the People’s House, as I like to call it, which it is. It’s our house. It doesn’t belong to politicians. It belongs to us, and we even pay for it with our taxpayer money.

Nancy: That’s right. So, you just walked in, and then walked out. That was it, you thought.

Rebecca: Right. I thought that was it. I went back to my daughter’s house that night. After a little while, she called me. She said, “Mom, do you know that you may get arrested for something like that?” I said, “What?” Like my grandson says, “What?” I thought, “This can’t happen to me. No, that’s not true.” I didn’t know. I had no idea that there were off limits or anything like that, because I thought we had a right to be there.

Nancy: Yes!

Rebecca: I never thought any more about it. I drove to Ben’s house with the intention to pray and stand up for my rights as a United States citizen who loves my country. Got back home, and then after a week or two, I saw that they were starting to arrest these people! I thought, “That can’t be! That’s not going to happen to me! I’m just a grandmother who loves my country and prays!”

Different people in our group, probably when you’re not a high-profile person, they’re not going to hit you. You don’t know what people are connected to, or whatever. Then on April 19^th, I got a knock on my door. I live out in the country on five acres. April 19^th, by the way, is Patriot Day. That’s the day that the first shot was heard around the world, just before the Revolutionary War.

It also happened to be my oldest son’s birthday. I was baking a birthday cake, and we were going to have him over. I go to the door, and there’s this man and woman at the door. They said, “We’re with the FBI, and we’re here to investigate your involvement in the January 6 event.” I thought, “What?” The first thing that came out of my mouth was, “I’m sorry, I’m baking a cake. Can you come back a different day because my house is a mess.” [laughter]

They did! They left me a card, and they said, “Just call us back.” I know this hasn’t happened to too many people who are in my situation. I didn’t know what that meant, but they did come back.

Nancy: It was lovely that it wasn’t so violent. We have neighbors, not so far away from us. I did a podcast. Some of you may remember the podcast with Bethany Vaughn, and how her husband was arrested by the FBI, but not with a little knock at the door. No, they came with guns. It was just so scary. It was terrible. They handcuffed him, and took him, and didn’t even tell him why. All the little children were so scared. It was very violent.

Now, they have had a court case, and they’re waiting to know whether he will have to do 10.5 years in jail just for standing outside an abortion clinic. Praise the Lord, it wasn’t so violent for you.

Rebecca: I feel bad sometimes when I share that, because of the horrific things that have happened.

Nancy: Oh, it’s horrific! And it’s amazing that the FBI are now coming against American citizens in such a violent way, who are totally innocent.

Rebecca: Right, totally innocent. It grieves me when I think about them. I feel bad, because this should never be happening. I thank God that it didn’t happen to me, but I really do feel for these other people. It’s horrid. When I see that, it just makes me cry. When I think of that; I’ve watched several documentaries on some of those. That’s not what happened to me, but that’s my story. God has a different one for all of us, I guess.

After the interview, that was the end of April that I actually did the interview with the FBI agents. I had nothing to hide. I’m a pretty open book on everything, because if I do mess up, I quickly repent, and God takes care of it. I didn’t hear anything for about three to four months later.

Then I got a call from the FBI. My agent says, “Well, you’re probably going to be arrested on four misdemeanors. They’re federal misdemeanors, and you’re going to have to appear in Denver in court. They’re going to arrest you. The four misdemeanors, I’ll tell you what they are. The first one is entering and remaining in a restricted building; the second is disorderly and disruptive conduct in a federal building.”

Nancy: Where did they get the disruptive conduct from?

Rebecca: They just think that we all are, because we disrupted what they wanted to do that day, I guess. The third is disorderly and disruptive conduct in the Capitol building. The fourth one is picketing and parading in a restricted building. Those are the four federal misdemeanors that I’m charged with. The penalty for them could be up to a year in prison, and over $200,000 in fines, to the fullest extent.

It seems so bizarre, that just going in there to pray, and to love your country is a crime. It’s very sad when I think about what has happened to our country. But God has a different plan. We’ve allowed ourselves to get into this position, and now we have to stand up and take a stand. That’s what I’m willing to do, because my life doesn’t belong to me. It belongs to Jesus, and whatever He asks in His heart.

Anyway, the agent was in the middle of saying that. After she got done saying what was going to happen to me, I was quiet, and I didn’t say anything. On the other end, she’s like, “Uhhh, aren’t you glad it’s not a felony?” I thought to myself, I didn’t say this out loud, but I said, “I shouldn’t be charged with anything, so I’m not going to be happy for a misdemeanor. You shouldn’t have done that to me at all because I was standing up for righteousness.”

Then nothing happened for about a year and a half. I never heard from her again. I thought, “Oh, they probably forgot about me because I’m not on that hit list anymore.” But then in December 2022, a year and a half later, I got a call from the FBI. They said, “You’re going to have to appear up in Denver and be charged with these four charges. You’ll be arrested and arraigned in front of the judge with these charges. That’s going to happen on December 19, 2022.”

I’m part of a Colorado Springs republican women’s group. We had our Christmas party that night. I was telling them about it. The GOP chair that we had, Vicky is her name, and she’s so patriotic. Loves the Lord, shares the same birthday with me. She said, “We’re not going to let that happen. We’re going to support you.” She ended up getting on a conservative podcast and said, “We need to rally behind this lady and give her our support.”

She got about 30-40 people up there the day I was arrested. I saw my two sons and my littlest grandchildren that I saw in my mind’s eye that day. Mom and Dad were there that day, my son and his wife. They all got up there and they prayed for me. They sang “This Little Light of Mine.” It was a real encouragement to be up there with me.

Nancy: Didn’t you say that they weren’t too happy about all those people coming?

Rebecca: No. Three days before I was supposed to go up there, the Friday before the Monday that I was supposed to go up there, the FBI called me. They said, “We heard there are going to be some protests up at the Capitol when you get up there that day. We need to be a little fluid. We’re going to have an extra FBI agent, so that will be three. You’re going to have to be very careful how we do this, because it could be some . . .” I think they thought, violence, or whatever. But very far from that, just because they wanted to pray for me and stand with me.

Nancy: So, they all did come?

Rebecca: Yeah, there were about 30 that she rallied together to come up there. I have the picture of them. They waited for my arraignment. They had no idea, but it was about four or five hours later. They all stayed around and waited. They got to know each other at the restaurant. They stood for me. It was really nice.

After I had been there and they prayed for me, I got a call from that agent. She said, “I want you to meet us at such-and-such corner.” So, I walked over there. I got to that corner, and nobody was there. Then I got another call from the FBI agent. She said, “We told you that you were supposed to come here alone. If you don’t come alone, we’re going to have to do this another day.”

I said, “Well, I’m not going to come another day and have all these people come up again. Let’s get this over with.” She said, “Meet us alone at this corner.” So, even though they didn’t tear my house down, they were very harassing. Then they told me to go to such-and-such a place, and that’s where they arrested me.

But thinking back on it, it goes back to what I said at the beginning, what Jefferson said. I think they were a little afraid of me, and that’s a good thing, right? If the government is afraid of us, then that’s freedom!

Nancy: So, what happened when they arrested you?

Rebecca: They put me in the back of the car. I looked at the warrant for my arrest. I said, “Can I see the warrant?” They gave it to me, and I noticed the date on there was three months earlier, September 19. To this day, I don’t really know why. I asked them when I was getting booked, and they said, “Extenuating circumstances,” or something like that.

I think they wanted to do it. I don’t celebrate all the Christmas holidays much anymore, but they thought it was four days before Christmas, so they wanted to make it as trying to me as possible. They got me, booked me, put me in shackles on my wrist and my waist. Then they put me in a prison cell for about three hours. There’s a story of me being in the prison cell. I don’t know if we have time to say that today.

Nancy: Maybe we can tell that story, and then I think we’ve got more to share. We’ll have to do another podcast together, OK? You tell that one, and then we’ll close and do another one! What we’ll do, ladies, I’ve only got Rebecca here today, so we’ll do another one. It will be posted to you the following week.

But what we want you to know this week is that you can be praying for Rebecca, because she will be traveling on to Washington DC. Her court case is on Monday, March 25. Please be praying for her, that the Lord will be with her in a wonderful way. But anyway, tell that little story.

Rebecca: OK. Also, I have a website, RestoringGodlyCulture.com. You can go there and read more about me, what I’m up to, and also put your email there if you want to get more updates. There’s also a donation tab, because expenses for my attorneys are quite high. Whatever you choose to do is fine. But I’ve got to tell you this story.

This is the most extraordinary story. I got in that prison cell. They locked me up. After an hour-and-a-half, I wasn’t troubled at all, I knew I was there on assignment by God. I sit down on that bench, and I’m sitting there for a little while. Then, all of a sudden, a US Marshall comes in. He says, “We’re going to have to shackle your ankles.” He brought me out and put the shackles between my ankles.

Nancy: Why would they have to do that? Did they think you were going to run or something??

Rebecca: I don’t know. It’s just the optics, maybe, Nancy. The optics were good if you’re in shackles. But they didn’t know that they weren’t doing that, because what happened to me was so amazing. I sat down there, sat on the bench, looked down at that chain between my ankles. A 12–15-inch chain, and all of a sudden it hit me.

Isaiah 53:5 says: “He was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement for our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.” All I could feel was the love of God, that He would sacrifice His love for me by sending His Son. That Jesus would go through death on the cross, and all that, worse than I could even imagine in a prison. He did that for me, and I just wept and wept. I felt so much the love of God there. It brings tears to my eyes when I think of how much God loves us, that He would sacrifice Himself.

This was the least I could ever do for Him. I felt this overwhelming sense of His love that I’ll never, ever forget. I tell people, if you can go to prison for just that, you should go to prison, because it is important to sense God’s love. Then I looked up, and all I heard was God saying, “Rebecca, you were chosen. You were chosen for this assignment.” It was just a reiteration to me that I’m on assignment for God, because we need to wake up our country, and bring it back to God. God loves us, and He loves our nation.

Nancy: Amen. Thank you, Rebecca. There’s more to share, so we’re going to do another session.

Rebecca: OK!

Nancy: That would be so great. But as you know, here on the Hilltop, we have two prayer meetings a week where we pray for the needs of the nation and for the world. We have Monday night here at our home and Wednesday night at Serene and Sam’s home.

We have prayed so much for these men who are in prison for January 6. Many of them, like you, just walked in and walked out. We remember talking to one guy at the end of the day. He was at the same hotel we were at. He said, “I walked into that place today.” He was telling us, he just walked in and walked around, and walked out, because the door had been opened. As we have seen on footage, they were welcoming, beckoning people in.

Most probably he’s one who is in prison. But many have been there now for three years. Innocently, and they have been treated like terrorists. They’ve been in solitary confinement. They’re not even treated like normal prisoners. They’re like terrorists. And these are our own people who were just there standing up for a stolen election.

It’s hard to believe, and yet many are still carrying on in this nation, and not really aware of what is happening. Here we are, now, it’s all these years, and they’re still trying to get more people in prison! It’s unbelievable. So, keep praying for these men who have been really, oh, they’ve been suffering! And pray for Rebecca, as she prepares to go to court on the 25^th. Let’s pray now, shall we?

“Dear Father, we come to You in the Name of Jesus. Lord, I pray, and ask that all these lovely people listening, that you will join with me. Lord, we pray that You will go with Rebecca, that You will fill her with Your Spirit. We pray that You will pour Your anointing upon her, and that she will glow and shine with Your Light, with Your presence, with Your glory.

“I pray, Lord, that as she goes into that courtroom, that Lord, all those who are present, and the judge, will see Your glory all over her, Lord God. Lord, if she speaks, I pray that You will give her Your Words to speak, and I pray that You will be glorified.

“Lord, we pray for favor for Rebecca. We pray that she will be released from these ridiculous charges. But above all, Lord, we pray that You will be glorified, and Your glory will be revealed in that courtroom. We ask it in the precious Name of Jesus. Amen.”

Blessings from Nancy Campbell

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UPDATE 3/25/24:

Please be praying or Rebecca as her trial begins today and could continue until Thursday.

OUR PERSONAL STORY:

My husband, Colin and I were very blessed to attend the STOP THE STEAL Rally on January 6. After the rally we walked up Pennsylvania Avenue with thousands of others to the Capitol. We must have spent two or three hours around the capital, mingling with thousands of others. The amazing thing was that we never saw any violence at all. Those who entered the capital must have done so from the other side as we never noticed anything untoward.

At one time we saw about 40 – 50 police walk out of the capital, two abreast. They walked right in front of us. But not one of them said one word to us. They never told anyone to leave. They never said, “There has been an insurrection. All people must leave.” They never opened their mouths.

In the late afternoon, we thought we had better walk back to our hotel after a wonderful and joyful time. Then we began to get phone calls from our grandchildren. “Nana and Granddad, are you alright? They are telling us on TV that terrible things have been happening!” We had no idea what they were talking about and yet we were right there with thousands of others and hadn’t seen a thing!

~ Nancy